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Re:Kiel Institute Analysis: US Americans pay 96% of tariff b... by groundzeros2015 on Monday January 19, 2026 @11:36AM (#46680971)
“people who disagree with me must do it because they are stupid and/or manipulated”

It’s true on its surface - most people don’t know about economics, across all political spectrums, and so rely on leaders (which I thought is what liberalism advocates for?).

It’s not a helpful model if you want to understand what’s going on. So then the interesting parts to explore are the reasons they want to believe it, and the reasons given by the educated economists who also support the position

Re:Kiel Institute Analysis: US Americans pay 96% of tariff b... by lcnPylGDnU4H9OF on Monday January 19, 2026 @12:34PM (#46681923)
Let's keep in mind that a tariff is, by definition, a tax that is paid by an importer to their own government for importing some good.

> the educated economists who also support the position

> the tariffs are something other countries are paying the US

I'm quite sure the provided definition of a tariff is accurate. Given that, who are these economists and what are the reasons they give for supporting this belief that the exporters (other countries) pay the tariff?

Re:Kiel Institute Analysis: US Americans pay 96% of tariff b... by groundzeros2015 on Monday January 19, 2026 @12:55PM (#46682226)
Is your position that nobody educated in economics would ever support a tariff?

edit: in the context of giving good economic advice.

Re:Kiel Institute Analysis: US Americans pay 96% of tariff b... by lcnPylGDnU4H9OF on Monday January 19, 2026 @01:02PM (#46682345)
My position is that nobody educated in economics would believe that a tariff is something exporters from other countries pay the government of the importer's country.
Re:Kiel Institute Analysis: US Americans pay 96% of tariff b... by overfeed on Monday January 19, 2026 @12:43PM (#46682027)
> if you want to understand what’s going on

Funny how the in-depth analysis of motivations is strictly in one direction, ratcheting the Overton window forever rightward.

On one hand we had mountains of articles about "economic anxiety" & "The MAGA next door" in 2016. On the flip side is "Fuck your feelings" and never a "humanizing, fish out of water" longform article about the life of a Democratic Socialist in a small Texas town after Biden 2020.

Re:Kiel Institute Analysis: US Americans pay 96% of tariff b... by groundzeros2015 on Monday January 19, 2026 @12:59PM (#46682315)
I disagree with your perceptions about media bias.

I’m not telling you it’s a moral obligation to understand. It’s in your interest.

Re:Kiel Institute Analysis: US Americans pay 96% of tariff b... by overfeed on Monday January 19, 2026 @03:14PM (#46683907)
> It’s in your interest

Explain. Hopefully with details on how that tactic was utilized by the most politically effective group in the US in the past 50 years - the Heritage Foundation.