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Re:Reddit will not ban 'distasteful' content, chief executiv... by tptacek on Wednesday October 17, 2012 @12:23PM (#4665157)
You understand that bystanders like me puzzling their way through what's happening with Reddit and this "stand" that they're taking see surreptitiously taken photos of minors posted for the amusement of a creepy Reddit thread to also be private information about other people, right?

Do you just disagree that they're the same kind of information? Is that where the controversy is here?

Re:Reddit will not ban 'distasteful' content, chief executiv... by danielweber on Wednesday October 17, 2012 @01:36PM (#4665579)
There was a rule for doxxing: it was something like "personally identifying information about a person who didn't want that information revealed."

And creepshots largely didn't meet the definition of that rule, because no one knew who the people in the pictures were.

Now, you can certainly wish the rule were something that would have blocked creepshots and doxxing. Like "information about anyone that they don't want a bunch of strangers on the Internet reading."

Reddit has tried to turn over the decisions about what to allow to a rule-based system instead of having to have any human discretion involved. I can see the appeal in wanting that (any google search for "technical solution for social problem" will describe why people keep on trying it), but it leads to things that obviously look absolutely crazy to outsiders.

Reddit probably needs to grow up and have some human discretion involved. It is going to collapse under its own weight without that.

Re:Reddit will not ban 'distasteful' content, chief executiv... by spindritf on Wednesday October 17, 2012 @12:30PM (#4665208)
The controversy is not just around photos of minors, there's gore on reddit, too. It really is about distasteful content in general and not just one particular instance of it.

And yes, I do think that information inciting or enabling real-life harassment is different from just a photo taken in public without the accompanying additional info.

Re:Reddit will not ban 'distasteful' content, chief executiv... by arthur_debert on Wednesday October 17, 2012 @12:46PM (#4665302)
People have been able to track people and locations surprisingly little information.

What if those photos do leak information that could enable real-life harassement (like EXIF metadata, street sign, etc) . Can we trust the submitter to guarantee it never will? If it happens, who's to blame?

Re:Reddit will not ban 'distasteful' content, chief executiv... by danielweber on Wednesday October 17, 2012 @01:39PM (#4665597)
"No one could possibly monitor that" is the same argument the pro-creepshot people use to explain why you can't ban pictures of children or candid pictures. Apparently because they think the only way to solve that is to hire a PI to painstakingly investigate each and every submission.

Those are both nuts. You handle the issue the way adults handle the issue:

1. Say "you can't post X."

2. Count on the fact that most people won't post X once you tell them not to (on pains of account sanction, which are already in place for rules against things like spam).

3. Deal with the complains of false positives and false negatives on a case-by-case basis.

Re:Reddit will not ban 'distasteful' content, chief executiv... by spindritf on Wednesday October 17, 2012 @01:07PM (#4665407)
> What if those photos do leak information that could enable real-life harassement

Then they should be removed. Imgur (Reddit's favourite image hosting) already strips meta data.

Re:Reddit will not ban 'distasteful' content, chief executiv... by arthur_debert on Wednesday October 17, 2012 @01:37PM (#4665585)
EXIF metadata is easy to automate. What if there is a logo of a local business reflected on a surface that most people barely notice. Someone recognizes this, tracks the person down. It's a bit over the top, but these things happen. If that exposes one of those underage girls, who is accountable? Leaking real world information can be done in many and subtle ways. There are times where people think the image origin is untraceable, but it isn't. Will reddit take the heat? The poster? The mod?
Re:Reddit will not ban 'distasteful' content, chief executiv... by sentenza on Wednesday October 17, 2012 @04:21PM (#4666227)
It's worse than that. Facebook already does face recognition, Google supposedly could too.

If there's a face in that image, then there is the identity of a person in that image.

Re:Reddit will not ban 'distasteful' content, chief executiv... by aes256 on Wednesday October 17, 2012 @01:24PM (#4665514)
> [...] surreptitiously taken photos of minors posted for the amusement of a creepy Reddit thread to also be private information about other people, right?

Taking a photo of someone in public and sharing it online does not constitute a breach of privacy. You do not have any expectation of privacy when you step out in public.