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Re:Iran has now been offline for 96 hours by tptacek on Tuesday January 13, 2026 @07:55PM (#46610916)
I agree, Iran doesn't really have an air force. In fact, they don't really even have a military --- by deliberate design. Iran will never field a competitive air force and I think it's actually pretty unlikely that they'll ever even field a seriously deterrent air defense system. I think that apart from lobbing MRBMs at Israel they simply aren't a serious regional threat anymore. They bet big on the IRGC Axis and it collapsed.

I'm not as convinced as you (and the Economist) are about Israel's interests in the total collapse of the Iranian regime. Either way, the protest movement is far too large for it to plausibly be a product of foreign intervention. I don't think we have to convince each other on this point, even if we don't agree.

Re:Iran has now been offline for 96 hours by pazimzadeh on Tuesday January 13, 2026 @11:45PM (#46612439)
I think you're constantly making non sequiturs around details that aren't central to the point. I could answer these, but I don't want to get distracted. At the end of the day, given everything you know, you don't believe that Netanyahu wants the Iranian regime toppled?

Revolutions can have some component of foreign intervention without necessarily negating the will of the people. The French aided the US, for example. So I don't know why the idea that the Iran protests are not foreign backed is so important to you.

There is plenty of public evidence of foreign backing of Iranian opposition (which interestingly might actually play right into the Mullahs' hands https://www.meforum.org/mef-observer/has-reza-pahlavi-become...) but it would make sense for there to be orders of magnitude more activity behind the scenes vs. what is publicly stated. For example, the US didn't admit participating in the 1953 coup of Mossadegh until 2013.

So please tell me how you are so sure that there is no foreign intervention today..

Re:Iran has now been offline for 96 hours by tptacek on Wednesday January 14, 2026 @09:32AM (#46616462)
I'm not sure what you expect from a conversation where you open with an accusation of bad faith and close by demanding I prove a negative.
Re:Iran has now been offline for 96 hours by pazimzadeh on Wednesday January 14, 2026 @10:56AM (#46617550)
It’s your choice to claim a negative in the first place. But yes, make an attempt to prove what you are saying and extraordinary claims require some evidence. Foreign countries have been meddling with Iran for over 200 years at the very least. The idea that now they aren’t is laughable.

I opened by showing how your statements are in direct contradiction, by the way.

Re:Iran has now been offline for 96 hours by tptacek on Wednesday January 14, 2026 @01:04PM (#46619682)
It's just you and me talking and reading at this point, so I'm really not seeing what the hostility is getting you.
Re:Iran has now been offline for 96 hours by pazimzadeh on Wednesday January 14, 2026 @03:08PM (#46622256)
What hostility?