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Re:The No Fakes Act Has a "Fingerprinting" Trap That Kills O... by terminalshort on Friday January 09, 2026 @02:01AM (#46550860)
The industry does not fear open source models. This is just Karens doing what they do best.
Re:The No Fakes Act Has a "Fingerprinting" Trap That Kills O... by beeflet on Friday January 09, 2026 @02:14AM (#46550932)
If the industry doesn't fear open-weight models, they should. There is no moat
Re:The No Fakes Act Has a "Fingerprinting" Trap That Kills O... by hhh on Friday January 09, 2026 @02:39AM (#46551052)
Why? Almost all of the open source models end up actually sucking for general purpose use, and require a decent bit of effort to even make remotely usable for specialized use cases.
Re:The No Fakes Act Has a "Fingerprinting" Trap That Kills O... by mcny on Friday January 09, 2026 @04:16AM (#46551708)
Because from what I understand, the whole premise of billionaires giving AI all their money is

1. AI succeeds and this success is defined by they will be able to raise prices really high

2. AI fails and receives a bailout

But if there are alternatives I can run locally, they can't raise prices as high because at some point I'd rather run stuff locally even if not state of the art. Like personally, USD 200 a month is already too expensive if you ask me.

And the prices can only go up, right?

Re:The No Fakes Act Has a "Fingerprinting" Trap That Kills O... by hhh on Friday January 09, 2026 @04:46AM (#46551935)
not really, in a scenario where demand dies down surplus gpu compute becomes so under-utilized we would see it drop even lower I would think. Prices will go up of course if we keep seeing more tokens needed to solve problems, and demand keeps going up with no increase in efficiency or capacity, which is again not what we're seeing really.
Re:The No Fakes Act Has a "Fingerprinting" Trap That Kills O... by torginus on Friday January 09, 2026 @03:20AM (#46551297)
From what I could tell (Corridor Digital mentioned this as well), actual pros use local models through ComfyUI, rather than prompting these proprietary models.

Control and consistency, as well as support for specialized workflows is more important, even if it comes at the expense of model quality.

Re:The No Fakes Act Has a "Fingerprinting" Trap That Kills O... by hackable_sand on Friday January 09, 2026 @04:19AM (#46551736)
Corridor Digital is also pretty despicable.
Re:The No Fakes Act Has a "Fingerprinting" Trap That Kills O... by torginus on Friday January 09, 2026 @06:24AM (#46552713)
Why do you say that? I feel like such strong blanket statements at least warrant an explanation.
Re:The No Fakes Act Has a "Fingerprinting" Trap That Kills O... by hackable_sand on Monday January 12, 2026 @12:18AM (#46584375)
They digitally recreated Tupac for a Snoop project

It's disgusting behavior

Re:The No Fakes Act Has a "Fingerprinting" Trap That Kills O... by realusername on Friday January 09, 2026 @02:58AM (#46551170)
There's two scenarios going forward that I can see.

Either there's a massive reduction of inference and training costs due to new discoveries and then those big hardware hoarders have no moat anymore or nothing new is discovered and they won't be able to scale forward.

Either way it doesn't sound good for them.

Re:The No Fakes Act Has a "Fingerprinting" Trap That Kills O... by HoJojoMojo on Friday January 09, 2026 @04:18AM (#46551723)
You are saying it needs at most minor tweaks when used for something specific like a product support channel?

For the long-term value of a horribly overpriced and debt ridden corporation it matters quite a lot if the catch up of open source to adequate is less than a decade in instead of several decades in some uses and a few more in others.

Re:The No Fakes Act Has a "Fingerprinting" Trap That Kills O... by immibis on Friday January 09, 2026 @08:18AM (#46553518)
FYI there are no open source models, only open weights. Open source means you get source code.
Re:The No Fakes Act Has a "Fingerprinting" Trap That Kills O... by mistrial9 on Friday January 09, 2026 @10:55AM (#46555166)
yes there are completely open models -- look at Allen AI and others
Re:The No Fakes Act Has a "Fingerprinting" Trap That Kills O... by like_any_other on Friday January 09, 2026 @09:44AM (#46554373)
At the moment. AI company management is not so myopic and can see the risk that this could change.
Re:The No Fakes Act Has a "Fingerprinting" Trap That Kills O... by mmcwilliams on Friday January 09, 2026 @08:59AM (#46553902)
The moat is building GPU infrastructure to serve inference at scale.
Re:The No Fakes Act Has a "Fingerprinting" Trap That Kills O... by troyvit on Friday January 09, 2026 @12:20PM (#46556258)
Not just building GPU infrastructure to serve inference at scale, but also constraining GPU infrastructure and pricing it out of reach for individuals who wish to pursue open models.

I'm not sure what entirely to do about it, but the fact that some providers still release open models is hopeful to me.