This is a bit of goalpost moving though because the primary experience is skeptics saying AI couldn't be trusted to design a ham sandwich vs enthusiasts who've make five course meals with AI. (or, you know, the programming equivalent)

Absolutely there's a lot of unfounded speculation going around and a lot of aggressive skepticism of it, and both sides there are generally a little too excited about their position.

But that is fundamentally not what I'm talking about.