Elon only has male children, except for his trans daughter. That's very weird and also points to the same conclusion.

I don't think it's that unusual on the scale of one person. it just happens sometimes, for example with Henry VIII. It could just be thr nature of the coin toss.

Most of his kids were conceived through IVF, and sex selection through IVF is not difficult. He also has disowned his one trans daughter because she refuses to be his son.

Henry VIII didn't have all male children?

Henry VIII also didn't have 14 children.

Henry VIII also didn't have all of his children by IVF.

Odds of 14 male children is like 1 in 15,000+

That comment has to have come from grok. Imagine how little you'd have to know about the Tudor dynasty to say that Henry VIII had 14 male children.

Henry VIII had only three legitimate kids surviving infancy, one of which was a boy. He was 1/3 for boys in this count. Add in the one for sure illegitimate child and he's 2/4 born male. Of those infants who were stillborn or died very early into their infancy, several were boys but it seems the counts for those children were uncertain. Also, there were probably several illegitimate male and female children had by him.

Musk is 14/14 born male. Its extremely unnatural.

> don't think it's that unusual on the scale of one person

It would be remarkably unlikely. It's fair to say Musk is probably sex selecting for sons. It doesn't follow that he has plans "to make women afraid to participate in public life."

>It doesn't follow that he has plans "to make women afraid to participate in public life."

No, that follows from his other actions

what other actions

I’m not arguing the circumstantial evidence isn’t compelling. And as a talking point, it’s a good one. But as an argument made in good faith, I think one needs direct attribution to be able to say what something “plans.”

Lol we need their own words to confirm it. But Musk lies about everything. His new words aren't compelling evidence. Look at his previous actions.

> we need their own words to confirm it

We need something. I asked if there was a hot mic because those two have a tendency to get recorded saying stupid things. It coud also be an e-mail, a memo, a recollection by a friend or former colleague, et cetera.

In the absence of evidence, it's much simpler to conclude that at least Musk is just sexist versus trying "to make women afraid to participate in public life."

When this poster says "we", they actually mean: "me and other ostriches with their heads in the sand"

I cannot roll my eyes hard enough at your comments. You expect every bad actor to make a public statement about their vile plans? Sure our president does it, but he's especially stupid.

> cannot roll my eyes hard enough

Okay.

> You expect every bad actor to make a public statement about their vile plans?

Neither Musk nor Miller have exhibited a tremendous amount of discipline in this department.

I don’t expect them to say this. But I do expect someone arguing in good faith to distinguish between plans and effects, particularly when we’re turning what looks like garden-variety sexism into a political theory.

Musk and Miller are both open fascists, and I don't feel the need to do the work for you to build a political theory around this fact.

> Musk and Miller are both open fascists

Not being debated here.

OP claimed Musk and Miller aim "to make women afraid to participate in public life."

There is also Exa Dark Sideræl

Sorry, my mistake - he has ONE biological daughter and how many sons?