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Re:BYD Sells 4.6M Vehicles in 2025, Meets Revised Sales Goal by eru on Thursday January 01, 2026 @09:43PM (#46460811)
Shouldn't we be writing thank-you notes to the Chinese tax payers who so graciously subsidies cheap cars for us?

I agree that Chinese workers and tax payers are hurt. But why do we need to 'defend' anything from their generosity?

Re:BYD Sells 4.6M Vehicles in 2025, Meets Revised Sales Goal by tooltalk on Friday January 02, 2026 @12:02AM (#46461586)
>> Shouldn't we be writing thank-you notes to the Chinese tax payers who so graciously subsidies cheap cars for us?

I'd write a BIG thank you note to the Chinese taxpayers if they could send a direct cash payment instead, so I can use it towards my next EV purchase.

Otherwise, I prefer not to participate in China's predatory pricing strategy (eg, illegal subsidies) to undermine foreign competitors.

Re:BYD Sells 4.6M Vehicles in 2025, Meets Revised Sales Goal by eru on Friday January 02, 2026 @03:24AM (#46462633)
I'm fairly sure the subsidies are perfectly legal by local laws.

In any case, feel free not to buy goods you don't like. No one is forcing you to buy, or are they?

Re:BYD Sells 4.6M Vehicles in 2025, Meets Revised Sales Goal by tooltalk on Friday January 02, 2026 @12:41PM (#46467265)
>> I'm fairly sure the subsidies are perfectly legal by local laws.

Sure, China's NEV subsidies are illegal and that's why Chinese EVs should stay in China. Too many folks still don't understand why Chinese EVs are countervailed not only in the US, the EU, Turkiye, Canada, but also why China's ally countries such as Russia and Brazil are imposing restriction on Chinese EVs (or the legal basis).

>> In any case, feel free not to buy goods you don't like. No one is forcing you to buy, or are they?

Sure, but no point in marching around virtual-signaling as if Chinese EVs and illegal subsidies are pro-consumer.

Re:BYD Sells 4.6M Vehicles in 2025, Meets Revised Sales Goal by eru on Friday January 02, 2026 @09:31PM (#46472191)
Chinese EVs are very popular where I live and there are no tariffs on them. We are on good terms with both China and the US.

> Sure, but no point in marching around virtual-signaling as if Chinese EVs and illegal subsidies are pro-consumer.

Huh? Where's the virtue? And how can cheap stuff not be good for the consumer?

The subsidies are bad for the Chinese economy and the Chinese tax payer. But they are excellent for the overseas customers who benefit from them.

Re:BYD Sells 4.6M Vehicles in 2025, Meets Revised Sales Goal by numpad0 on Friday January 02, 2026 @09:52AM (#46465300)
It'll slowly hemorrhage your industry base, and your country will end up being a giant wasteland with guarded compounds here and there, eventually. You wouldn't want that.
Re:BYD Sells 4.6M Vehicles in 2025, Meets Revised Sales Goal by eru on Friday January 02, 2026 @09:30PM (#46472182)
Huh, what? Where has that ever happened because of cheap imports?