This is literally the position of the field of ecology and the field of cybernetics

I live day-to-day inside of that world because that is the real world

the fact that few others live live day-to-day inside the field of ecology and Cybernetics is precisely the problem I’m pointing out

the fact that you want to deny this means that you’re ignoring the intersectionality between climate change, social and structural dynamics, industrial production, financial production, Infrastructure and all this other stuff as though they are separate they are not separate

Is pure projection to say that it’s reductive for me to demand an accounting for all possible externalities in order to have a coherent system

I’m telling you to do 10 to 100 times more work in evaluating any of these actions structurally then is currently happening and you’re trying to induce that I’m collapsing the problem into some kind of single state variable and I’m saying no you need thousands of more variables to be tracking in your head at all time and on ledgers at all time then we currently do because all of these externalities have been dumped into the ocean and nto the atmosphere effectively

When the global food supply collapses and there’s blight and drought and famine because we overextended resource extraction without identifying the long-term effects of that literally no other argument is going to hold sway