Re:OpenAI's cash burn will be one of the big bubble question...
by conartist6 on Wednesday December 31, 2025 @08:46AM
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Experts making a specialized model isn't an example of an AI contributing value to society. All the value a model can offer comes from one of exactly two places: the person building the model, or the people the model trained on.
We know that the model training on the model training on the model leads to model collapse...
Re:OpenAI's cash burn will be one of the big bubble question...
by __MatrixMan__ on Wednesday December 31, 2025 @12:55PM
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Your word choice implies a very zero-sum perspective on value.
Value is determined by what we value, it's a choice. If a bunch of scientists value good approximations for how a protein will fold, and then a model generates more such things in a year than those scientists could make in a century, that's a lot of value. Not extracted from anyone, created.
Re:OpenAI's cash burn will be one of the big bubble question...
by conartist6 on Wednesday December 31, 2025 @01:56PM
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Yes. Value created by the people who made the data the model trained on, and the people who ensured that the training created a good model. I'm just saying it's not magic, just another kind of high-level work that people do.
Re:OpenAI's cash burn will be one of the big bubble question...
by snigsnog on Wednesday December 31, 2025 @10:27PM
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I don't know anything about the field but apparently AlphaFold having "solved the problem of protein folding" is overhyped? https://old.reddit.com/r/bioinformatics/comments/1e0s55e/did...
When you look at models that were built for a specific purpose, closely intertwined with experts who care about that purpose, they absolutely propel communities to new heights. Consider the impact of alphafold, it won a Nobel prize, proteomics is forever changed.
The issue is that that's not currently the business model that's aimed at most of us. We have to have a race to the bottom first. We can have nice things later, if we're lucky, once a certain sort of investor goes broke and a different sort takes the helm. It's stupid, but its a stupidity that predates AI by a long shot.