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Re:Programmers, Promise Yourself This by oldgregg on Tuesday February 03, 2009 @01:39AM (#463629)
This seems really interesting--- bizarre that there isn't more research on it. I've also had AMAZING success with Provigil (import from India el-cheapo). It keeps me in the zone for hours on end... with no side effects except for a welcomed slight loss of appetite. I wouldn't have believed you if you told me a drug like it exists, but sure enough...

It's almost like the FDA is plotting against us...

Re:Programmers, Promise Yourself This by gravitycop on Tuesday February 03, 2009 @01:50AM (#463641)
bizarre that there isn't more research on [7-Keto].

Check my PubMed links, in my response to shaunxcode.

Provigil (import from India el-cheapo).

I have imported the older, cheaper version of Provigil (Adrafinil; costs about 1/5th of Provigil price, after correcting for dose-equivalence). I have been wanting to try Provigil (also known as Modafinil). Which offshore pharmacy do you use, if you don't mind my asking?

Re:Programmers, Promise Yourself This by oldgregg on Tuesday February 03, 2009 @03:00AM (#463682)
I've used shop.airsealed.com but more recently www.thepharmacyexpress.com because it's cheaper-- Never had any problems.

I love pharma-hacking, always looking for recommendations... India is the way to go. I was over there a couple years ago and someone told me they basically only have two price points for pills in the country-- either ~13 cents or ~24 cents. Totally different pricing dynamics without all those nasty patent laws... One time I asked a hotel concierge for a substantial supply of Ambien and he just laughed, "no valium? ketamine?"

Re:Programmers, Promise Yourself This by Iconoclast on Tuesday February 03, 2009 @04:03AM (#463732)
When I was looking into getting cheap Adderal online after losing my insurance, several of the sites I researched were exposed as selling fake meds, so I gave up. How are you sure that you are getting the actual medication?
Re:Programmers, Promise Yourself This by gravitycop on Tuesday February 03, 2009 @06:13PM (#464917)
When I was looking into getting cheap Adderal online after losing my insurance, several of the sites I researched were exposed as selling fake meds

One clue should have been the fact that they were claiming to be selling Adderall. Adderall is a Schedule II drug. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adderall

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Controlled_Substances_Act#Sched...

These substances are only available by prescription, and distribution is carefully controlled and monitored by the DEA. [...]

Drugs in this schedule include:

  Cocaine
  Opium
  Methadone
  Morphine
  Amphetamine
  Methamphetamine

We are not talking about trying to import things - like cocaine, morphine, Adderall and any other Schedule II drug - that cannot be legally imported. We are talking about normal, legally-importable drugs such as Provigil.

Re:Programmers, Promise Yourself This by burke on Tuesday February 03, 2009 @11:08PM (#465243)
Looks like you need a license to import Modafinil into Canada, and can't get it without a prescription. (Schedule F Part 1). Can anyone that knows how these laws work confirm that?

EDIT: Confirmed. See Section C.01.045 of http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/fn-an/alt_formats/hpfb-dgpsa/pdf/legi...

Re:Programmers, Promise Yourself This by oldgregg on Tuesday February 03, 2009 @09:56AM (#464049)
Well I took a chance and it worked out alright, but it could be more difficult depending on the med... There is so much spam in the online pharmacy space you do have to cut through the clutter... I waded through as many forums and blog posts as possible to narrow my list down, then just started with a small order to see what would happen. Then as long as you get them and they look legit you will probably be okay. Also, find a place that will accept a credit cards... I've noticed legit places are really responsive in order to avoid charge backs.
Re:Programmers, Promise Yourself This by gravitycop on Tuesday February 03, 2009 @06:30PM (#464945)
I love pharma-hacking, always looking for recommendations.

I have used QHI for Adrafinil. They also have Modafinil (Provigil). A lot of rec.drugs.smart folks use QHI: http://groups.google.com/group/rec.drugs.smart/search?group=...

RX-Mex (4rx) is good for other items. These are the lowest-price pharmacies, that are reliable and easy to deal with, I know of. (Some people complain about 4rx mass-emails. I haven't had any problems.)