Re:US blocks all offshore wind construction, says reason is ...
by coryrc on Monday December 22, 2025 @06:16PM
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It's also like to see a comparison to giving people/companies a discount if they have alternative methods of heating for 3 weeks and agree to be powered off. Places like hospitals and universities often have generators and do this. Sand "batteries" (aka electric resistive heaters in a few tons of sand heated to 1000°C) might be cost-effective if standardized. You keep it insulated and hot until the power goes out, then you let it bleed heat out to keep you from dying.
Re:US blocks all offshore wind construction, says reason is ...
by nandomrumber on Monday December 22, 2025 @11:15PM
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You’re ok if governments give up and simply tell consumers “you deal with it”?
Places like hospitals have back up in case the mains goes out. It’s no longer a back up if used as the primary supply.
Re:US blocks all offshore wind construction, says reason is ...
by coryrc on Tuesday December 23, 2025 @03:13AM
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They get cheaper electric rates by agreeing to be the first loads shed if the grid is overloaded. This is a standard thing. If their generators didn't start, they wouldn't be cut off, but it'd be a big deal.
> You’re ok if governments give up and simply tell consumers “you deal with it”?
Paying people to be prepared and willing to go without electricity in times of extreme supply-demand balance is a part of the solution. It's a regular thing for data centers, hospitals, etc. It may be cheaper to pay people to install sand batteries than to install longer-distance interconnects, and if people voluntarily agree, why would you object?
Re:US blocks all offshore wind construction, says reason is ...
by coryrc on Monday December 22, 2025 @06:02PM
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Context is solar and pricing. You can't only build solar, because people will freeze to death. So you can't say "solar+batteries is only $X/W!!!” because you're ignoring that you must also have a rarely-used natural gas, or install a rarely-used long-distance transmission line, or install rarely-used storage capacity. Which is fine, but you're being dishonest about costs if you don't.
Natural gas and fossil fuels are not our only options, they are the easiest options.