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Re:The Rise of SQL:the second programming language everyone ... by elevation on Monday December 22, 2025 @04:53PM (#46359585)
I once boasted about avoiding ORM until an experienced developer helped me to see that 100% hand‑rolled SQL and customer query builders is just you writing your own ORM by hand.

Since then I've embraced ORMs for CRUD. I still double-check its output, and I'm not afraid to bypass it when needed.

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Re:The Rise of SQL:the second programming language everyone ... by ChromaticPanic on Monday December 22, 2025 @06:39PM (#46360603)
Exactly, and any good ORM will let you drop down to pure SQL if you need to for the weird cases.
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Re:The Rise of SQL:the second programming language everyone ... by yawaramin on Monday December 22, 2025 @09:53PM (#46361902)
Not really. ORMs have defining characteristics that hand-rolled SQL with mapping code does not. Eg, something like `Users.all.where(age > 45)` create queries from classes and method calls, while hand-rolled SQL queries are...well..hand-written.
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