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Re:If you don't design your career, someone else will (2014) by keiferski on Monday December 22, 2025 @07:18AM (#46353576)
I forget the exact podcast, as I think he did a few different interviews. Might have been this one?

https://www.artofmanliness.com/people/fatherhood/podcast-108...

The book itself is called The Preparation.

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