Re:Jonathan Blow has spent the past decade designing 1,400 p...
by wahnfrieden on Thursday December 18, 2025 @12:36PM
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They are encouraged in surface level, performative ways. The actual communities are incredibly off-putting.
edit: speaking industry-wide. of course there are "not all men" type spaces in local communities.
Re:Jonathan Blow has spent the past decade designing 1,400 p...
by jstimpfle on Thursday December 18, 2025 @12:52PM
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For all I know, being a male programmer myself, with a significant proportion of females in all my programmer circles so far, I can attest the exact opposite. Every one of those circles has been welcoming and inclusive.
Re:Jonathan Blow has spent the past decade designing 1,400 p...
by __alexs on Thursday December 18, 2025 @12:40PM
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Given the success of women in sports such as ultra marathoning, medicine etc I don't think it is that conclusive that women are not willing to put the hours into difficult and isolating activities.
There are a great number of studies of the social aspects of gender differences in work but I don't have a single authoritative source for you.
Re:Jonathan Blow has spent the past decade designing 1,400 p...
by KittenInABox on Thursday December 18, 2025 @02:56PM
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> Men are, on average, just more willing to put in the hours of social neglect in order to become good at such things as programming, or also gaming, or whatever other fringe unsocial hobby.
It is much easier to put in the hours of gaming when you're not repeatedly called for your rape or have someone trying to stalk you or similar aggressive behaviors towards people perceived as female in these spaces. I pretended to be a woman in gaming spaces for some time just to see if these women had a point and the level of harassment I experienced is way more than even my most unmoderated cod xbox days. It's a simple voice modulator in chat.
Re:Jonathan Blow has spent the past decade designing 1,400 p...
by jstimpfle on Thursday December 18, 2025 @04:52PM
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Point taken. I do think that it can be challenging to be a rare female amongst males (it would probably be similar the other way around). But the biggest contributing factor for such behaviours is certainly the anonymity of online gaming.
Never forget that the social neglect is not exactly healthy, and programming isn't actually that prestigious and externally rewarding, except for maybe the compensation that you can currently earn in some places.
Adding that for example in math or other sciences, we are much closer to gender parity.