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Re:Twins reared apart do not exist by nroets on Sunday December 14, 2025 @07:16AM (#46262535)
What studies ? What data ? David Bessis basically says that there are so few twins reared apart that scientists can't make definitive conclusions.
Re:Twins reared apart do not exist by derriz on Sunday December 14, 2025 @08:32AM (#46262899)
I don't understand why you are challenging me here?

Isn't your question exactly that addressed by the (admittedly too long) article? That the graph Paul Graham presented proving the dominance of inheritance wasn't based on any science or data?

Re:Twins reared apart do not exist by nroets on Sunday December 14, 2025 @12:39PM (#46264970)
Your comment mentioned "studies" plural.

There are many studies of twins that try to determine if genes influence intelligence.

Some look at twins who are raised together. One [1] concludes that "MZ (identical) twins differ on average by 6 IQ points, while DZ (fraternal) twins differ on average by 10 IQ points".

[1]: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6202166/

Re:Twins reared apart do not exist by derriz on Sunday December 14, 2025 @02:06PM (#46265790)
> Your comment mentioned "studies" plural.

Yes? I mentioned them because the article was about a bunch of studies? I was asking the poster why you would not be interested in the validity of such studies and just decide that "common sense" was enough to make a decision?

The question was asked with genuine curiosity as this forum is mostly filled with people who appreciate science and empiricism. And I was hoping there could be a reasonable discussion.

But I'm out. An interesting discussion should be possible here purely based on data and statistics but clearly - from the downvotes - that I've stepped into some toxic American identity politic minefield.

I learned quite a time ago that it's risky to raise certain scientific subjects with USAians including my US relatives: biological evolution, the science of climate change, renewable energy or justifications for gun control - without the conversation getting emotional and heated. But I still find it weird.