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Re:Do you really want to be making this much money when you'... by TeeWEE on Saturday October 06, 2012 @08:31AM (#4620351)
If you're into programmer and not in it for the passion there is a high chance that you're a mediocre programmer.

But indeed that doesnt matter. Because the demand is high.

But for me, this is what drives me: working with an excellent team on a product/service that is heavily used and comes with technical challenges.

If managers, business and bad programmers interfere with this, i'd rather stop and get a decent job.

The money is not the main driver.

Re:Do you really want to be making this much money when you'... by readme on Saturday October 06, 2012 @08:51AM (#4620383)
Judging by OP's blog, I'd say he's passionate. Look at his other articles.

He says he's "in it for the money" because he's honest. No one working to earn a living is not in it for the money, and if they tell you otherwise they're delusional. I think the measure should be "Would you still program if this wasn't your job?" and if the answer is yes, then the passion is there.

I really hate it when people decry the importance of money, because money is basically our unit of human sustenance. It is what we trade for food, shelter, and clothing.

Re:Do you really want to be making this much money when you'... by TeeWEE on Saturday October 06, 2012 @09:19AM (#4620432)
Off course everybody needs money to survive. But when choosing a profession, some people choose to be an attorney because they can get a big salery.

However I choose computer science because of the passion. I also had a passion for making music. But the passion and the money are the drivers. But the main driver is not the money.

Re:Do you really want to be making this much money when you'... by veemjeem on Saturday October 06, 2012 @10:04AM (#4620540)
I guess that could still depend -- suppose the individual in question made lots of money by selling a software product, and develops a passion for it due to the payout. Does it matter if he was initially passionate, or only after making the money?

A friend of mine hated piano as a child, only after many forced hours of practice (from his tiger mom) he became really good and started to win state championships for his ability. After a few more years, he developed a passion for it and played piano for fun. He never liked piano to begin with, but when he became good at it, he developed that passion.

So I'd argue that a bad programmer, after making some decent money, can become passionate at it when the initial driver started as money.

Re:Do you really want to be making this much money when you'... by strengthftw on Saturday October 06, 2012 @11:16AM (#4620722)
Do you by chance read Cal Newport's blog? or have read his recent book "So Good They Can't Ignore You: Why Skills Trump Passion in the Quest for Work You Love"
Re:Do you really want to be making this much money when you'... by veemjeem on Saturday October 06, 2012 @12:01PM (#4620832)
nope, did he form the same opinion as mine?
Re:Do you really want to be making this much money when you'... by strengthftw on Saturday October 06, 2012 @02:33PM (#4621270)
yup
Re:Do you really want to be making this much money when you'... by chaosmonkey on Saturday October 06, 2012 @09:09AM (#4620415)
I guess if you are into something with a passion (programming), more often than not you are going to be good at it and the money follows.
Re:Do you really want to be making this much money when you'... by dasil003 on Saturday October 06, 2012 @08:35AM (#4620361)
The tricky part is defining passion. I think the key element is that insatiable curiosity that pulls you in when you're doing it. The desire and drive to understand every nuance of a system is what makes it possible to be a good programmer.

In other words, a clock-punching mentality is not enough, but neither is making it your life's mission necessary.

Re:Do you really want to be making this much money when you'... by prodigal_erik on Saturday October 06, 2012 @09:20PM (#4622289)
Hm, it's obviously true that the computer doesn't care what your life's mission is, but I don't know how someone would avoid having that insatiable curiosity dominate their life. I never could, and I only tried briefly because I felt like a freak (and to be fair, compared to the mainstream we are).