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Re:Gemini 3 Pro: the frontier of vision AI by bee_rider on Friday December 05, 2025 @05:28PM (#46168219)
Naive question, but what is Gemini?

I wonder if a lot of these models are large language models that have had image recognition and generation tools bolted on? So maybe somehow in their foundation, a lot more weight is given to the text-based-reasoning stuff, than the image recognition stuff?

Re:Gemini 3 Pro: the frontier of vision AI by genrader on Friday December 05, 2025 @07:36PM (#46169312)
Go watch some of the more recent Google developer, Google AI, and Google deepmind videos, they're all separate channels at YouTube but try to catch some from the last 6 months with some of these explanatory topics on the developer side that are philosophical/ mathematical enough to explain this to you without going into the gritty details and should answer your question
Re:Gemini 3 Pro: the frontier of vision AI by andy12_ on Saturday December 06, 2025 @06:15AM (#46172428)
No, the "large _language_ model" name is a misnomer nowadays. Some time ago it was indeed common to get a pure-text model and inject embeddings from a separately trained image-encoder (which generated "meh" results), but current natively multi-modal models are pre-trained with both text and images from the ground-up. That's why they are so much better at image understanding.

> Gemini models are trained on a dataset that is both multimodal and multilingual. Our pre-training dataset uses data from web documents, books, and code, and includes image, audio, and video data.

https://arxiv.org/pdf/2312.11805