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Re:Most Technical Problems Are People Problems by zwnow on Friday December 05, 2025 @09:27AM (#46161703)
Pride in the quality of my work is a phrase to make one feel bad about themselves. I take pride in my hobbies and in my hobby projects. I take pride in my family and friends. I do not take pride in being exploited for my work so some higher up can buy a new car every year.
Re:Most Technical Problems Are People Problems by bpt3 on Friday December 05, 2025 @12:34PM (#46164476)
And again, someone comes and makes a comment that proves my point. Unless you are working in very unusual (and illegal in the developed world) circumstances, you are not being exploited in any real sense.
Re:Most Technical Problems Are People Problems by youoy on Friday December 05, 2025 @01:48PM (#46165510)
In the end this depends on your definition of "fair". What percentage of your generated production do you think is fair for the company to take? 95%? 50%? 10%?
Re:Most Technical Problems Are People Problems by bpt3 on Friday December 05, 2025 @01:56PM (#46165631)
That depends on the value of your generated production, among many other things, and ultimately isn't the right question to ask.

Can an employee obtain better employment terms elsewhere (which is a complex concept to define in itself)? If so, they are underpaid, if not, they aren't.

Re:Most Technical Problems Are People Problems by youoy on Friday December 05, 2025 @02:42PM (#46166280)
You were talking about exploitation. Using the fact that the employee cannot obtain a better employment elsewhere to extract as much of the production or value from the employee smells a lot like exploitation to me.
Re:Most Technical Problems Are People Problems by bpt3 on Friday December 05, 2025 @08:49PM (#46169782)
If an employer offers an employee $100 per hour, and the next best offer that employee can obtain elsewhere is $90 for an otherwise equivalent job, should the employee take that job for granted? Is the employer exploiting them with their pay rate?
Re:Most Technical Problems Are People Problems by youoy on Saturday December 06, 2025 @02:08AM (#46171340)
That would be the case in an idealized world. As with everything this depends on the circumstances and the economic activity of where the person is living in. I guess that with the north american eyes it is the employee's fault if the employee cannot find some other job since the only constraint for doing it is the personal drive. But there are other economical/educational constraints that don't allow people to have the necessary mobility for your example to be efficient and accurate.
Re:Most Technical Problems Are People Problems by the_overseer on Saturday December 06, 2025 @07:58AM (#46172984)
Put down the Ayn Rand BS books. What if the employers make 10k per unit of work while they pay you only $10 per unit of work and they have all talked to each other to never pay more than $10? What do you do then? Complain? Go to court? Who do you think has more influence over the politicians/courts? You making $10 or your bosses that are all millionaires because of your severly underpaid work?
Re:Most Technical Problems Are People Problems by bpt3 on Saturday December 06, 2025 @11:07AM (#46174361)
Your scenario is the equivalent of Ayn Rand books for the lazy and entitled.

What's the point of inventing a non-existent situation where you're obviously correct, other than self-gratification?

Re:Most Technical Problems Are People Problems by the_overseer on Monday December 08, 2025 @08:27PM (#46200218)
Non-existent situation? How about you read a little history? You can start with the word "collusion".
Re:Most Technical Problems Are People Problems by zwnow on Friday December 05, 2025 @07:25PM (#46169226)
In my humble exploited worker opinion, you resemble Samuel L Jackson in Django Unchained. You dont even realize in what position you are in. Get back to the ground bootlicker.
Re:Most Technical Problems Are People Problems by bpt3 on Friday December 05, 2025 @11:44PM (#46170774)
And in my humble opinion, you will continue to be dissatisfied and somehow it's everyone's fault but your own.
Re:Most Technical Problems Are People Problems by layla5alive on Saturday December 06, 2025 @03:28PM (#46176352)
+1