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Re:Anthropic reportedly preparing for $300B IPO by JohnnyMarcone on Wednesday December 03, 2025 @04:12PM (#46140189)
What was the moat in search?
Re:Anthropic reportedly preparing for $300B IPO by input_sh on Wednesday December 03, 2025 @04:44PM (#46140611)
PageRank, everything before PageRank was more like yellow pages than a search engine as we know it today. Google also had a patent on it, so it's not like other people could simply copy it.

Google was also way more minimal (and therefore faster on slow connections) and it raised enough money to operate without ads for years (while its competitors were filled with them).

Not really comparable to today, when you have 3-4 products which are pretty much identical, all operating under a huge loss.

Re:Anthropic reportedly preparing for $300B IPO by efficax on Wednesday December 03, 2025 @04:49PM (#46140662)
Google had PageRank, which gave them much better quality results (and they got users to stick with them by offering lots of free services (like gmail) that were better quality than existing paid services). The difference was night and day compared to the best other search engines at the time (WebCrawler was my goto, then sometimes AltaVista). The quality difference between "foundation" models is nil. Even the huge models they run in datacenters are hardly better than local models you can run on a machine 64gb+ ram (though faster of course). As Google grew it got better and better at giving you good results and fighting spam, while other search engines drowned in spam and were completely ruined by SEO.
Re:Anthropic reportedly preparing for $300B IPO by aurareturn on Thursday December 04, 2025 @03:46AM (#46145243)
PageRank wasn't that much better. It was better and the word spread. Google also had a very clean UI at a time where websites like Excite and Yahoo had super bloated pages.

That was the differentiation. What makes you think AI companies can't find moats similar to Google's? The right UX, the right model and a winner can race past everyone.

Re:Anthropic reportedly preparing for $300B IPO by HarHarVeryFunny on Thursday December 04, 2025 @11:39AM (#46149568)
> PageRank wasn't that much better

It really was!

I remember the pre-Google days when AltaVista was the best search engine, just doing keyword matching, and of course you would therefore have to wade through pages of results to hopefully find something of interest.

Google was like night & day. PageRank meant that typically the most useful results would be on the first page.

Re:Anthropic reportedly preparing for $300B IPO by jimbokun on Wednesday December 03, 2025 @05:06PM (#46140867)
The sheer amount of data and infrastructure Google has relative to their competitors.

Just having far more user search queries and click data gives them a huge advantage.

Re:Anthropic reportedly preparing for $300B IPO by marcosdumay on Wednesday December 03, 2025 @08:34PM (#46142736)
Google is in a two sided market. Their moat in search is their ads market share, their moat in ads is their search market share.