Re:Mathematics is hard for mathematicians to understand too
by BlackFingolfin on Wednesday December 03, 2025 @07:11AM
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I find it strange to compare "math" with one programming language. Mathematics is a huge and diverse field, with many subcommunities and hence also differing notation.
Your rant would be akin to this if the sides are reversed: "It's surprising how many different ways there are to describe the same thing. Eg: see all the notations for dictionaries (hash tables? associative arrays? maps?) or lists (vectors? arrays?).
You don't have "the manual" of programming languages. "
Re:Mathematics is hard for mathematicians to understand too
by segfaultex on Wednesday December 03, 2025 @07:54AM
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Not the original commenter, but I 100% agree that it's weird we have so many ways to describe dictionaries/hash tables/maps/etc. and lists.
Re:Mathematics is hard for mathematicians to understand too
by worthless-trash on Wednesday December 03, 2025 @08:05AM
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> You don't have "the manual" of programming languages. "
Well, we kinda do when you can say "this python program" the problem with a lot of math is that you can't even tell which manual to look up.
Re:Mathematics is hard for mathematicians to understand too
by nkrisc on Wednesday December 03, 2025 @08:42AM
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Someone not educated in programming would not know that a given text is Python source code.
Re:Mathematics is hard for mathematicians to understand too
by worthless-trash on Wednesday December 03, 2025 @11:43AM
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Same problem, but unlike math notation, it is MUCH clearer and even my 10 year old newphew can tell python from javascript and C.
Re:Mathematics is hard for mathematicians to understand too
by nkrisc on Wednesday December 03, 2025 @12:28PM
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I would wager that a vast majority of people on the planet could not distinguish Python from JavaScript from C.
Re:Mathematics is hard for mathematicians to understand too
by worthless-trash on Friday December 05, 2025 @12:50AM
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When it says "this python" program, they dont need to, it says its python. Math notation doesn't have that clarity.
Re:Mathematics is hard for mathematicians to understand too
by mzl on Wednesday December 03, 2025 @07:49AM
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I wrote about overlapping intervals a while ago, and used what I thought was the standard math notation for closed and half-open intervals. From comments, I learned that half-open intervals are written differently in french mathematics: https://lobste.rs/s/cireck/how_check_for_overlapping_interva...
One last rant point is that you don't have "the manual" of math in the very same way you would go on your programming language man page and so there is no single source of truth.
Everybody assumes...