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Re:Accepting US car standards would risk European lives by ricardobeat on Wednesday December 03, 2025 @04:19AM (#46132216)
It’s possible. Visibility for pedestrians and bicyclists in these trucks is horrendous.

It’s so ridiculously bad that even an M1 Abrams tank has less blind spots: https://www.reddit.com/r/fuckcars/comments/140dgn8/many_popu...

Re:Accepting US car standards would risk European lives by potato3732842 on Wednesday December 03, 2025 @07:51AM (#46133905)
Tanks are famously dangerous to be anywhere other than directly in front of. The angular front blind spot isn't terrible, but from the front corners on back they're massive hazards to the point where infantry gets trained on it so they don't get run over.

Speaking or fun over, whoever made that illustration should be run over by a tank. Fix the size of the goddamn kid or fix the distance and change the size of the kid. Having both variables move serves to only add confusion and annoyance.

Re:Accepting US car standards would risk European lives by ricardobeat on Wednesday December 03, 2025 @08:49AM (#46134437)
The kids are the same size - the number above is the distance at which they become visible. It could indeed be a little less confusing.
Re:Accepting US car standards would risk European lives by potato3732842 on Wednesday December 03, 2025 @08:50AM (#46134450)
That makes far more sense.
Re:Accepting US car standards would risk European lives by trollbridge on Wednesday December 03, 2025 @08:07AM (#46134065)
It seems this could be largely mitigated with relatively simple lidar.
Re:Accepting US car standards would risk European lives by lan321 on Wednesday December 03, 2025 @08:01AM (#46134000)
> an M1 Abrams tank has less blind spots

Absolutely not. You can't even turn around in the driver position of a tank.

Re:Accepting US car standards would risk European lives by arp242 on Wednesday December 03, 2025 @04:59AM (#46132579)
A lot could probably be done with a simple "a person 1.80m in length must be able to see a 50cm high object 1 metre in front of the car" or something like that. Just making up numbers here and don't know what would be reasonable, but it seems this doesn't need to be that hard?

Weight also matters of course. Hopefully this relatively simple ruling will fix some of that too.

Re:Accepting US car standards would risk European lives by potato3732842 on Wednesday December 03, 2025 @08:07AM (#46134056)
>A lot could probably be done with a simple "a person 1.80m in length must be able to see a 50cm high object 1 metre in front of the car" or something like that. Just making up numbers here and don't know what would be reasonable, but it seems this doesn't need to be that hard?

It's hard because the people pushing for new rules very transparently want rules far beyond what the public wants or considers sensible. If they were simply asking for that it'd probable be done already.

Re:Accepting US car standards would risk European lives by ricardobeat on Wednesday December 03, 2025 @09:03AM (#46134565)
EU Regulation 2019/2144 [1] covers field of vision requirements. This is exactly the kind of regulation the USA wants the EU to drop.

> there shall be no obstruction in the driver's 180° forward direct field of vision below a horizontal plane passing through V1, and above three planes through V2, one being perpendicular to the plane X-Z and declining forward 4° below the horizontal

> For vehicles with high driving positions (driver's eye points more than 1,650 mm above the ground), a 1,200 mm tall cylindrical object with a diameter of 300 mm must be visible when placed 2,000 mm in front of the vehicle

According to Claude a Dodge RAM fails both of these. At 80cm (2-year old, a dog, or someone crouching down), depending on driver position, an object might be obscured by the hood in a comically large 5-8 meter area ahead.

[1] https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/HTML/?uri=CEL...