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Re:Mozilla's latest quagmire by thomassmith65 on Monday December 01, 2025 @06:07PM (#46114751)

  It wasnt about "respecting users", or "agency" but simply implemented standards properly.
That's the story of how Netscape succeeded against MSIE. Only they didn't. Firefox did.

From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netscape:

  In November 2007, IE had 77.4% of the browser market, Firefox 16.0%, and Netscape 0.6%
Re:Mozilla's latest quagmire by qbrass on Tuesday December 02, 2025 @01:06AM (#46118133)
From the same Wikipedia page:

"On July 15, 2003, Time Warner (formerly AOL Time Warner) disbanded Netscape. Most of the programmers were laid off, and the Netscape logo was removed from the building."

Peak Netscape was 1996. By 2003, they had already handed development off to Mozilla, and Netscape the browser was just a thin veneer over Mozilla's browser.

By 2007, it was just Mozilla with AOL branding and almost all of it's users were people still using AOL in 2007.

Re:Mozilla's latest quagmire by thomassmith65 on Tuesday December 02, 2025 @01:44AM (#46118327)
Yes, that's the point.

Back in the naughties, testing a web page with Netscape seemed miraculous because if it rendered correctly with a PC, chances are it would with a Mac, and with Linux.

Microsoft didn't care about standards. If a page rendered incorrectly in other browsers than Windows MSIE they didn't care (even if it was Mac MSIE).

But that difference wasn't enough to save Netscape because, as a web browser, Netscape was a bloated mess.

When Firefox came along, it was popular with web designers, for the same reasons as Netscape was - but its streamlined design catered to regular users.

Re:Mozilla's latest quagmire by thomassmith65 on Sunday December 07, 2025 @12:52AM (#46179471)
*noughties