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Re:New owners of eBaum's World fire ebaum and his staff by jerf on Sunday February 01, 2009 @11:28AM (#460971)
A building is intrinsically stable. I mean that in the physics sense; if the building displaces itself one centimeter to the left, the forces in the building pull it back. No part of it is intrinsically unstable.

An economy has a large number of intrinsically unstable parts. As they displace from the "norm", they will displace even further. For example, the mere fact of a commodity's price going up can cause it to go up further as others react. This is intrinsically unstable.

An unstable system can not run like a stable system. Jerks are mathematically inevitable. The only way to prevent it is to do one of two things: Remove all such things from the system, or create an instantaneous counter force for each of these things. Neither is possible economically. The second sounds appealing, but the thing is that it has to be instantaneous to work, and completely (inhumanly!) accurate, or it becomes simply one more destabilizing force.

You can see this even in economies with no human interaction; this is the source of nature's constant ebb and flow.

The only thing you can do is make things worse by convincing people that you can stop the ebb and flow of the economy, so they don't prepare, then the storm comes anyhow and is all the worse for people not being prepared.

Re:New owners of eBaum's World fire ebaum and his staff by gravitycop on Sunday February 01, 2009 @11:47AM (#461005)
A building is intrinsically stable. [...] if the building displaces itself one centimeter to the left, the forces in the building pull it back. No part of it is intrinsically unstable.

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=9A03EFDA1F3BE...

January 4, 1914, Sunday [...]

Several of New York City's skyscrapers are away out of plumb and have a tendency to emulate the famous leaning tower of Pisa according to the engineering department of the Building Bureau.

Re:New owners of eBaum's World fire ebaum and his staff by jerf on Sunday February 01, 2009 @12:13PM (#461027)
The "out-of-plumb" is their set-point then. No law of nature says buildings have to be straight up. If what I described didn't happen, they'd fall over, so therefore it must happen.
Re:New owners of eBaum's World fire ebaum and his staff by jerf on Sunday February 01, 2009 @01:55PM (#461151)
To whomever thought they needed to downmod that, I recommend a study (or review) of elementary static Newtonian physics. I'm hardly making stuff up, this is Physics 101. My comment was deliberately drawn in parallel to the discussion of normal force that everyone should get when they first forget to include normal force in their force diagram, but remember gravity; if that was true, the object would fall through the table (or whatever surface), therefore clearly there is a normal force. If the forces on a building didn't stabilize it, it would therefore fall over. It sounds simple when you say it, but it's not so simple the first ten times you hand in your force diagram and get a big red mark on it, until you learn.

(Looking at the downmod pattern, though, there's someone who isn't liking the idea that regulation may not be perfect, and expressing that with downmods. Interestingly, my real point is that it can't be perfect for mathematical reasons, which is actually a completely different argument from whether or not it can improve things. But you do need to set out from a policy perspective with the goal of improving, not perfecting, because plans based on perfecting things always cause more trouble when they go wrong. The plan has no slack left over.)

Re:New owners of eBaum's World fire ebaum and his staff by likpok on Sunday February 01, 2009 @01:17PM (#461106)
But they are in fact stable. Just the equilibrium point isn't quite where the engineers intended.