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Re:Norway wealth fund to vote for human rights report at Mic...
by akho on Sunday November 30, 2025 @09:28AM
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That's the yardstick people use to measure Sweden, yes. Similarly applicable here.
Re:Norway wealth fund to vote for human rights report at Mic...
by Ponet1945 on Sunday November 30, 2025 @09:54AM
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Sweden was under threat of invasion and still helped the allies, what's Microsoft's excuse?
Re:Norway wealth fund to vote for human rights report at Mic...
by boringg on Sunday November 30, 2025 @10:16AM
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Apples and Oranges comparison here. This isn't a world war we are talking about.
Re:Norway wealth fund to vote for human rights report at Mic...
by reactordev on Sunday November 30, 2025 @10:26AM
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Isn’t it though? When AI is used against the people and fake media is used to cover up war crimes, what’s not to stop there? When your feeds have been polluted with outside foreign influencers that you explode from within, what’s not to stop there? It’s war alright. Just not the kind of war Spielberg thinks would make a great film.
Re:Norway wealth fund to vote for human rights report at Mic...
by tehjoker on Sunday November 30, 2025 @10:52AM
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Have you seen pictures of Gaza? Scenes like this haven't been seen since WW2, maybe the Korean War or the Cambodia campaign.
Re:Norway wealth fund to vote for human rights report at Mic...
by loeg on Sunday November 30, 2025 @01:42PM
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Haven't been seen since WW2 or the 1970s? Are you just ignoring Sudan right now, or a million other armed conflicts?
Re:Norway wealth fund to vote for human rights report at Mic...
by tehjoker on Sunday November 30, 2025 @02:00PM
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I’m aware there’s a genocide in sudan but i’m not aware of entire cities being leveled in this fashion. there have been other conflicts where more people have died, but rarely is there a conflict where the entire world government apparatus appears to stand against 2 million people mostly women and children in contradiction to the democratic will of almost the entire world
it takes a lot of money and firepower to do what they’ve done to gaza. it is an affectation of enormous wealth and callousness against a nearly defenseless population
i will say though that sri lankans said that some of these tactics were pioneered against the tamil tigers in more recent history
Re:Norway wealth fund to vote for human rights report at Mic...
by saubeidl on Sunday November 30, 2025 @10:01AM
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They like money.
Re:Norway wealth fund to vote for human rights report at Mic...
by tdeck on Sunday November 30, 2025 @09:39AM
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"Once the rockets are up, who cares where they come down? That's not my department, says Werner Von Braun."
Re:Norway wealth fund to vote for human rights report at Mic...
by zahlman on Sunday November 30, 2025 @10:57AM
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Are you seriously comparing "general purpose compute" to ballistic missiles?
Re:Norway wealth fund to vote for human rights report at Mic...
by jakupovic on Sunday November 30, 2025 @12:00PM
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If the 'general purpose compute' is used by rocket, then yes?
Re:Norway wealth fund to vote for human rights report at Mic...
by zahlman on Sunday November 30, 2025 @03:07PM
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So you would be fine with sharing criminal liability if you, for example, bought a car from someone and later that person committed a crime?
Re:Norway wealth fund to vote for human rights report at Mic...
by jakupovic on Sunday November 30, 2025 @05:11PM
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I wouldn't, that's why there are rules everyone adheres to.
Re:Norway wealth fund to vote for human rights report at Mic...
by zahlman on Sunday November 30, 2025 @09:49PM
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By the same token, if Microsoft provides "general purpose compute" to a state that does something harmful, Microsoft should not be expected to share moral culpability for that harm. That's why I objected in the first place. It is not as if they provided something exclusively or primarily used for causing harm.
Re:Norway wealth fund to vote for human rights report at Mic...
by jakupovic on Monday December 01, 2025 @05:52AM
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MS said they wouldn't, that's where the conflict arises. The fund doesn't want to be involved with any shady stuff and is trying their "humanity clause".
Re:Norway wealth fund to vote for human rights report at Mic...
by reactordev on Sunday November 30, 2025 @01:41PM
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A general purpose technology that happens to be used for harm does not make the technology harmful, only its wielder.