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Re:Americans no longer see four-year college degrees as wort... by hn_throwaway_99 on Sunday November 30, 2025 @03:17AM (#46094857)
Thanks, I thought this was a very insightful comment that helped me think about the problem differently.

I would add, though, that I think "co-op universities" have a good solution. That is, places like Northeastern and Drexel when the undergrad program is 5-ish years and a good portion of that time is working in paid co-op positions. This ensures that students graduate with at least some real-world experience in their field but still get the benefit of classroom study and the full college experience.

Re:Americans no longer see four-year college degrees as wort... by ryandv on Sunday November 30, 2025 @03:23AM (#46094884)
Obligatory uwaterloo plug. I didn't even end up graduating after 3 years of compsci but still ended up with almost two years of work experience. Colleagues in my early career were still paying down student debt while I had already paid for tuition out of pocket, not with tax dollars.

Funny too, because I had a philosophy professor there who talked about how the university is not a vocational school, but a place one goes to enrich the mind and become a more worldly citizen.