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Re:Show HN: Anthony Bourdain's Lost Li.st's by jghn on Saturday November 29, 2025 @02:30PM (#46090086)
As someone who is of the appropriate age & resonates with what you say: this doesn't account for the fact that Gen-X is the most MAGA generation.
Re:Show HN: Anthony Bourdain's Lost Li.st's by awesome_dude on Saturday November 29, 2025 @02:40PM (#46090168)
At the risk of stepping into USA POL (which is quite polarised)

MAGA is a Right wing response to corporates - they put all their faith into someone who they thought was going to take to the "elites" who they believed were responsible for the corporates being able to r*pe and pillage through society.

The Left wing response was Occupy Wall street and such.

On a similar note skinheads had a far left branch and a far right branch (the far right is what skinheads are now primarily seen as)

Re:Show HN: Anthony Bourdain's Lost Li.st's by jghn on Saturday November 29, 2025 @02:46PM (#46090202)
On paper, yes. But just like the tea party, and how "libertarian" has been completely coopted, they're really just tools for the same corporate interests as before.
Re:Show HN: Anthony Bourdain's Lost Li.st's by awesome_dude on Saturday November 29, 2025 @02:54PM (#46090264)
I mean, yes, that's where things are ending up (IMO), but I am only talking about why people chose that pathway.
Re:Show HN: Anthony Bourdain's Lost Li.st's by ErroneousBosh on Saturday November 29, 2025 @03:25PM (#46090457)
> MAGA is a Right wing response to corporates

No, it's a cynical marketing exercise designed to make people think that.

They're just selling hats. Hats that are costing way, way more than the sticker price, especially for the people who buy them.

Re:Show HN: Anthony Bourdain's Lost Li.st's by lurk2 on Saturday November 29, 2025 @05:14PM (#46091290)
> No, it's a cynical marketing exercise designed to make people think that.

The grandparent comment is referring to MAGA the demographic, not MAGA the political machine. How could the political machine have sold hats (or immigration policy, or tariffs) if no one in the broader movement wanted to buy them?

Re:Show HN: Anthony Bourdain's Lost Li.st's by ErroneousBosh on Saturday November 29, 2025 @05:25PM (#46091386)
Marketing. They've got to sell the idea somehow.

Otherwise how would a serial failed businessman get so much traction? It's all marketing.

Re:Show HN: Anthony Bourdain's Lost Li.st's by lurk2 on Saturday November 29, 2025 @05:46PM (#46091527)
Trump did not create the support for border control and immigration enforcement among the American general public. He won because these policies were third rails for anyone involved in establishment politics, whose donors rely on illegal immigrants to undermine organized labor.
Re:Show HN: Anthony Bourdain's Lost Li.st's by awesome_dude on Saturday November 29, 2025 @06:03PM (#46091656)
This is the problem with USA politics.

I'm talking about one groups (apparent) motivations, you're talking about your perspective of the groups leadership.

Re:Show HN: Anthony Bourdain's Lost Li.st's by coldtea on Sunday November 30, 2025 @09:09PM (#46102690)
Does quite well. MAGA wasn't just the classical Bush-era gun-loving redneck shit, it brought some elements of sticking it to the bipartisan complacency, cynicism, and anti-corporatism. Which is also why big chunk of Gen Z also got on board with alt-right for example