Does it clear your driveway of snow? Otherwise I'm not sure why leaving a running vehicle unattended is useful. If the car is too cold when you get in, put a coat on. Too much ice on the windows? Scrape it off.

In MY day we walked to school in the snow, uphill both ways! Turn that light off! Just put a coat on! Get off my lawn!

It warms the engine (and thus the interior) while I clear the driveway of snow, and it does this even if the doors are frozen shut because of a layer of ice.

By the time I get back to addressing the car itself, the snow and ice is easier to brush or scrape off and the doors might actually open without ripping the handle off (which is something that I've directly experienced twice so far in my days).

This all conspires to mean that it makes my life easier.

And it's OK if you don't like the feature and take a very dim view of it. It's also OK that some others may find merit in using it.

It's all OK.

If you have a driveway and no garage, my sympathies. If you have a garage, and your winters are as severe as you say, why not park in the garage? It's better for your car and tires and you won't spend any time or fuel scraping and warming.

It's not the feature I dislike. I find the practice of idling a car to warm it wasteful and polluting.

Sure.

Even better to move to a place where there isn't regularly any winter weather. Perhaps something below the 35th north parallel, and as close to sea level as can be mustered, would be good.

Let's all do this. It will be a Great New Beginning for so many people.

And thereafter, we'll burn our money polluting the world by running the aircon while we drive instead of burning it to help pre-emptively warm our cars on wintry days.

Air-conditioning uses less energy than heating. And places where you need air-conditioning also have abundant solar power.

If you park your car in your garage you'll burn less fuel and own less stuff (because you can't store it in your garage). I'm telling you an easy way to save time, money, and your own energy (scraping ice) and you're mocking me. That's nice.

Heat is free when we're out driving around. Internal combustion engines generate more heat than they know what to do with. I do like your idea of putting solar panels on a car to run the aircon, though: That sounds neat!

(I adore and embrace every opportunity for a stranger on the Internet to tell me how I should live.)

> I do like your idea of putting solar panels on a car to run the aircon

I thought you were talking about air conditioning in buildings. In warm climates, in a car, cooling is usually free: roll down your window and catch something called a "breeze". Works great unless you're on the freeway. But if everyone moved to a warm climate, as you, suggested we'd be living way more dense so you'd drive way less anyway. checkmate

There are also these things called "electric vehicles" that you can charge with solar power without requiring a panel on the vehicle.

> I adore and embrace every opportunity for a stranger on the Internet to tell me how I should live.

You're welcome! Normally I don't care what people do. But this idling cars affects everyone's air quality.

That's been a nice run through the arrogance of hypotheticals.

Over here in reality: It is that time of year again where the weather is shifting.

I think I'll stay where I am, park in whatever location it is that suits me, and start looking into remote starter kits for my Honda.

And I'm quite certain that I don't care at all what my neighbors may think of this.

> I think I'll stay where I am, park in whatever location it is that suits me, and start looking into remote starter kits for my Honda.

I mean that was pretty much the outcome I expected from this interaction.

Sure. I start the engine and then proceed to get the snow off and defrost the windows using a broom and a scraper. Good way to adjust yourself to the cold. Remote start won't help much in anything more than 2" of snow because it would take half an hour to defreeze by itself. My wife prefers the garage, though. Still, we don't live in Alberta or Alaska for the car to freeze shut.

We had a hybrid replacement Yaris. It's nice but it still turns on the engine when it's cold. I wasn't complaining abut the noise, but the fumes. Diesels are the worst, regardless of CO2 rating, but gas engines produce a lot more CO even if they stink less. There are places where idling is regulated up to 5 minutes.

https://www.wandsworth.gov.uk/environment/pollution/air-qual...