Re:Two recently found works of J.S. Bach presented in Leipzi...
by 1718627440 on Tuesday November 25, 2025 @03:31AM
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>> Saying someone is your favorite X and someone is the greatest X are different things, you can think of someone as the greatest X and not like them (unlikely but possible).
> Agreed. That's my point.
You do? You agree, that "X is the greatest Y" is just a valid statement as "X is my favourite Y" and conveys different information? Wasn't my observation, but then the discussion is finished. Actually the former is a better statement on a discussion website, since it allows discussion, while the latter is basically a useless statement, that you can't even object to.
> We are talking about art.
So what. You can still discuss this. Also music is also a science and Bach did some important work in this direction. There are different tastes, but whether a given artist caters to a taste the best, is something you can discuss objectively. Also composing is a craftsmanship, and you can still discuss the craftsmanship even if you don't agree with the final work.
> X is the greatest author/writer/etc, X is the greatest painter, X is the greatest musician, X is the great film director, etc. If we can't even decide within a particular art form, who is the greatest, it even more laughable to say X is the greatest artist FULL STOP.
"hearsathought" is the greatest discusser! There I just did it. Doesn't seem to be impossible to me.
> it even more laughable to say X is the greatest artist FULL STOP.
Why? lordleft didn't even claim to talk for all humans.
>> In addition he [Bach] is also (jokingly) called the fifth evangelist, at least in Germany. Not sure, if this remark is known elsewhere.
> Who cares? It just proves my point.
How so? I don't get your point then, because to me it proves the opposite.
> Who cares?
A lot of people found it useful enough to spark a discussion and it is currently the first comment.
> He made the comment in the spirit of being a silly fanboy. Just like most respondents so far.
Nah, that's just your opinion. If you don't agree, it would have been more useful to give a contradicting argument, than to dismiss the statement as inexpressible a priori.
> Agreed. That's my point.
You do? You agree, that "X is the greatest Y" is just a valid statement as "X is my favourite Y" and conveys different information? Wasn't my observation, but then the discussion is finished. Actually the former is a better statement on a discussion website, since it allows discussion, while the latter is basically a useless statement, that you can't even object to.
> We are talking about art.
So what. You can still discuss this. Also music is also a science and Bach did some important work in this direction. There are different tastes, but whether a given artist caters to a taste the best, is something you can discuss objectively. Also composing is a craftsmanship, and you can still discuss the craftsmanship even if you don't agree with the final work.
> X is the greatest author/writer/etc, X is the greatest painter, X is the greatest musician, X is the great film director, etc. If we can't even decide within a particular art form, who is the greatest, it even more laughable to say X is the greatest artist FULL STOP.
"hearsathought" is the greatest discusser! There I just did it. Doesn't seem to be impossible to me.
> it even more laughable to say X is the greatest artist FULL STOP.
Why? lordleft didn't even claim to talk for all humans.
>> In addition he [Bach] is also (jokingly) called the fifth evangelist, at least in Germany. Not sure, if this remark is known elsewhere.
> Who cares? It just proves my point.
How so? I don't get your point then, because to me it proves the opposite.
> Who cares?
A lot of people found it useful enough to spark a discussion and it is currently the first comment.
> He made the comment in the spirit of being a silly fanboy. Just like most respondents so far.
Nah, that's just your opinion. If you don't agree, it would have been more useful to give a contradicting argument, than to dismiss the statement as inexpressible a priori.