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Re:Agent Design Is Still Hard by overfeed on Saturday November 22, 2025 @04:28PM (#46018437)
A mutually exclusive group 1 & group 2 are a false dichotomy. One can have a grasp on the field and keep up to date with recent papers, have an active Claude subscription, use agents and still have a net-negative view of "AI" as a whole, considering the false promises, hucksters, charlatans and an impending economic reckoning.

tl;dr version: having negative view of the industry is decoupled from one's familiarity with, and usage of the tools, or the willingness to learn.

Re:Agent Design Is Still Hard by bdangubic on Saturday November 22, 2025 @04:51PM (#46018568)
> considering the false promises, hucksters, charlatans and an impending economic reckoning.

I hack for a living. I could hardly give two hoots about “false promises” or “hucksters” or some “impeding economic reckoning…” I made a general comment that a whole lot of people simple discount technology on technical grounds (favorite here on HN)…

Re:Agent Design Is Still Hard by overfeed on Saturday November 22, 2025 @06:28PM (#46019293)
> I could hardly give two hoots about “false promises” or “hucksters”

I suppose this is the crux of our misunderstanding: I deeply care about the long-term health and future of the field that gave me a hobby that continues to scratch a mental itch with fractal complexity/details, a career, and more money than I ever imagined.

> or some “impeding economic reckoning…”

I'm not going to guess if you missed the last couple of economic downturns or rode them out, but an economic reckoning may directly impact your ability to hack for a living, that's the thing you prize.

Re:Agent Design Is Still Hard by __loam on Saturday November 22, 2025 @06:20PM (#46019228)
You should give a shit about how the field is perceived because that affects your ability to make a living whether you care about it or not
Re:Agent Design Is Still Hard by bdangubic on Sunday November 23, 2025 @03:07PM (#46026849)
yea the “ai” is going to ruin this amazing reputation the field had before it :)
Re:Agent Design Is Still Hard by __loam on Sunday November 23, 2025 @06:17PM (#46028348)
It ain't helping