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Re:Israeli-founded app preloaded on Samsung phones is attrac... by galagawinkle489 on Monday November 17, 2025 @04:55PM (#45958800)
There was no "Nakba". Arab Muslims invaded Israel in 1948. They lost their aggressive (expressly genocidal) war. They left again. That isn't ethnic cleansing. There are heaps of Arab Muslims in Israel. They are a sizeable minority of the population. They've always been part of Israel. The peaceful ones that can coexist with Jews stayed. The ones that are so hateful they could not fathom the idea of living alongside Jews left. That's not ethnic cleansing.

Note by contrast that in most Arab Muslim countries in the Middle East, there is not just no large Jewish minority (as there was historically in all of those places). There are no Jews at all. Literally zero. They were ethnically cleansed. Expelled or murdered.

Israel does not occupy any land. In 1967, once again Israel's Arab Muslim neighbours aggressively and genocidally invaded. They once again were unsuccessful and lost territory. That territory has been part of Israel since then. It is no more "occupied" than western Poland is, which not too long ago was Germany, or western parts of Russia that recently were Poland. Land changes hands in the world, and after 1967 that land was lost.

Why when they aggressively invaded Israel should we care about their territorial claims for land they lost in the aftermath? Why is Israel the only country in the world expected to give up land it took decades ago?

Israel doesn't have apartheid. Everyone in the country has the same rights. Muslims are a minority. Obviously they don't get the same say as the Jews who are a majority. That's how every democratic state works.

The antisemitic and defamatory claims that Israel is deliberately killing Palestinian civilians is without basis.

Re:Israeli-founded app preloaded on Samsung phones is attrac... by ebbi on Monday November 17, 2025 @04:58PM (#45958838)
Thanks for exposing your clear bias. Nothing productive will come of this discussion.
Re:Israeli-founded app preloaded on Samsung phones is attrac... by sophrosyne42 on Monday November 17, 2025 @07:04PM (#45959917)
After WW2 Germans were literally removed from certain territories and the land given to Poland. It's honestly not much different from the Nakba. I find an immediate refusal to address points of history like this and hide behind accusations of bias to weaken your credibility.

War is a horrible and inherently immoral thing. We do no favors to our humanity or othercs by pretending it's a simple black and white matter when it is really not.

Re:Israeli-founded app preloaded on Samsung phones is attrac... by vladgur on Monday November 17, 2025 @05:46PM (#45959298)
Which of those historical facts you find biased?

Ps humans are biased. Humans need to be able to have respectful discussions