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Re:Israeli-founded app preloaded on Samsung phones is attrac... by matkoniecz on Monday November 17, 2025 @04:09PM (#45958324)
> Serious war crimes were committed in the Israeli pager attack.

which ones?

are you confusing "war crimes" with "nonzero collateral damage"?

> are you sure you would be willing to have this same technique, or similar uses of at-scale consumer devices being subverted by a nation state, applied to you?

no, but it would not be motivated by nonexisting war crimes

it would be motivated by "I prefer my enemy to not succeed at attacking me"

> would you be okay if some state that was hostile to your own decided to just pack malfeasant activities into devices that almost everyone in your neighborhood/company are using?

as I am not in military or in terrorist organization or anything similar, it would not be analogous

if I would be in either then I would not be happy about it happening but it would not a war crime either

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Re:Israeli-founded app preloaded on Samsung phones is attrac... by nashashmi on Monday November 17, 2025 @04:22PM (#45958488)
Targeting civilians in a sovereign country is a war crime
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Re:Israeli-founded app preloaded on Samsung phones is attrac... by matkoniecz on Sunday November 23, 2025 @09:26AM (#46023797)
IIRC correctly they were not targeting civilians in this case (which is distinct and different from "no civilians were harmed")
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Re:Israeli-founded app preloaded on Samsung phones is attrac... by MomsAVoxell on Monday November 17, 2025 @05:32PM (#45959163)
You might want to familiarize yourself with this material before commenting further on this thread:

Common Article 3; GC I Art. 12 & 18; GC III Art. 13; GC IV Arts. 27, 32 & 51; AP I Arts. 48, 51(2–5), 57 & 54; CCW Amended Protocol II Art. 7(2) of the Geneva Conventions.

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Re:Israeli-founded app preloaded on Samsung phones is attrac... by matkoniecz on Monday November 24, 2025 @07:47AM (#46033537)
Do you mean

> Protocol on Prohibitions or Restrictions on the Use of Mines, Booby-Traps and Other Devices as amended on 3 May 1996 (Protocol II to the 1980 CCW Convention as amended on 3 May 1996)

or some other document? IIRC for start it does not have article 18.

I am quite confused by your weird unusually formatted citation style.

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