Apple removes gay dating apps from Chinese App Store at Beijing's request

Re:Apple removes gay dating apps from Chinese App Store at B... by bell-cot on Tuesday November 11, 2025 @11:21AM (#45889112)

(As a generality, "free speech" is a much shorter & stronger argument than "I am allowed to criticize Tim because [logic, more logic, therefore, yet more logic, QED]"-type stuff. Not that it matters much, in the current context.)

Your notions of propriety seem to involve lots of truth-telling, logical consistency, and courageously adhering to consequences of previous statements. (And smack-talking folks who don't follow those notions:)

Vs. 99.9% of real-world business and political leaders might freely say that they follow such lofty principals...but actually do otherwise whenever a cost/benefit optimization suggested less-lofty behavior.

In any case, "convince Tim Cook to defy the CCP" doesn't sound like a viable goal. If you're looking to improve things - maybe focus on pushing Tim to defy a relatively Elbonian gov't, or to ease back on the huge "SE => 16e" price increase for an entry-level iPhone?

[ Parent | on HN ]

Re:Apple removes gay dating apps from Chinese App Store at B... by latexr on Tuesday November 11, 2025 @01:20PM (#45890885)

> In any case, "convince Tim Cook to defy the CCP" doesn't sound like a viable goal.

I agree. Good thing that is not what I’m doing. I have no illusions it’ll happen.

> If you're looking to improve things - maybe focus on pushing Tim to

The only way to improve things at Apple is to get Tim out of the CEO position and hope the replacement is better.

> or to ease back on the huge "SE => 16e" price increase for an entry-level iPhone?

I’m not going to waste my efforts on fighting a price change for a phone, especially not one I don’t even use nor want. If you care about that, you fight for it. You have my support, I won’t stand in your way or endlessly try to convince you it’s not worth it.

[ Parent | on HN ]