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Re:Microsoft Can't Keep EU Data Safe from US Authorities by AlanYx on Wednesday November 05, 2025 @02:01PM (#45826518)
FISA and the Stored Communications Act as modified by the CLOUD Act don't distinguish between (i) parent company overseas + US subsidiary and (ii) parent company in US + foreign subsidiary. In both instances the US asserts personal jurisdiction, extending to wherever the data is stored geographically.
Re:Microsoft Can't Keep EU Data Safe from US Authorities by fukka42 on Wednesday November 05, 2025 @02:23PM (#45826770)
The US has no authority whatsoever over a foreign parent company. The US subsidiary also has no access to "foreign" data.
Re:Microsoft Can't Keep EU Data Safe from US Authorities by potsandpans on Wednesday November 05, 2025 @02:30PM (#45826836)
The US by and large can (and does) assert authority outside of its jurisdiction, from which another country can choose to capitulate.

Most of the time countries do, because they are all swapping data on their citizens between themselves to skirt various laws.

In the case where the US really wants something, and the country won't yield, they'll fund contras or destabilize the government (if small enough to be bullied) or impose sanctions so drastic it's effectively a soft act of war.

This is all to say that, the US has nearly unlimited authority while it stands as the world's defacto superpower.

Re:Microsoft Can't Keep EU Data Safe from US Authorities by fukka42 on Wednesday November 05, 2025 @02:32PM (#45826861)
They can assert what they want, they have no way to enforce it.

Pretty funny you're jumping straight to warfare. This proves why Americans cannot be trusted.

In any case, it's better for me that the Americans will need to start a war with the EU to get at my data instead of just giving it to them.

Re:Microsoft Can't Keep EU Data Safe from US Authorities by segfaultex on Wednesday November 05, 2025 @03:17PM (#45827379)
I'd argue that placing faith in any large institution is folly. Especially when that institution has a bunch of perverse incentives to act immorally.

Any nation with any amount of leverage has abused it.

Re:Microsoft Can't Keep EU Data Safe from US Authorities by potsandpans on Wednesday November 05, 2025 @02:34PM (#45826887)
We agree, I'm not saying anything is good or desirable. Just pointing out, this is how they achieve overreach: coercion.
Re:Microsoft Can't Keep EU Data Safe from US Authorities by thewebguyd on Wednesday November 05, 2025 @04:24PM (#45828222)
The unfortunate truth, 300,000 years later and humans still operate on "might makes right" whether militarily, or economically.
Re:Microsoft Can't Keep EU Data Safe from US Authorities by fukka42 on Thursday November 06, 2025 @04:57AM (#45833400)
If the violent, untrustworthy, Americans choose to go to war with their former allies over some data then that's their choice. Better than just giving these warmongers everything they want.