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Re:The Case That A.I. Is Thinking by notepad0x90 on Tuesday November 04, 2025 @12:04PM (#45813262)
reasoning might be a better term to discuss as it is more specific?
Re:The Case That A.I. Is Thinking by naasking on Tuesday November 04, 2025 @12:14PM (#45813395)
It too isn't rigourously defined. We're very much at the hand-waving "I know it when I see it" [1] stage for all of these terms.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_know_it_when_I_see_it

Re:The Case That A.I. Is Thinking by notepad0x90 on Wednesday November 05, 2025 @08:03PM (#45830168)
I can't speak for academic rigor, but it is very clear and specific from my understanding at least. Reasoning, simply put is the ability to come to a conclusion after analyzing information using a logic-derived deterministic algorithm.
Re:The Case That A.I. Is Thinking by naasking on Wednesday November 05, 2025 @09:04PM (#45830579)
* Humans are not deterministic.

* Humans that make mistakes are still considered to be reasoning.

* Deterministic algorithms have limitations, like Goedel incompleteness, which humans seem able to overcome, so presumably, we expect reasoning to also be able to overcome such challenges.

Re:The Case That A.I. Is Thinking by notepad0x90 on Thursday November 06, 2025 @09:22AM (#45835562)
1) I didn't say we were, but when someone is called reasonable or acting with reason, then that implies deterministic/algorithmic thinking. When we're not deterministic, we're not reasonable.

2) Yes, to reason does imply to be infallible. The deterministic algorithms we follow are usually flawed.

3) I can't speak much to that, but I speculate that if "AI" can do reasoning, it would be a much more complex construct that uses LLMs (among other tools) as tools and variables like we do.