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Re:The Case That A.I. Is Thinking by lossyalgo on Tuesday November 04, 2025 @09:13AM (#45811255)
Just ask it how many r's are in strawberry and you will realize there isn't a lot of reasoning going on here, it's just trickery on top of token generators.
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Re:The Case That A.I. Is Thinking by Workaccount2 on Tuesday November 04, 2025 @09:42AM (#45811555)
This is akin to "Show a human an optical illusion that exploits their physiology".

LLM's be like "The dumb humans can't even see the dots"[1]

[1]https://compote.slate.com/images/bdbaa19e-2c8f-435e-95ca-a93...

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Re:The Case That A.I. Is Thinking by lossyalgo on Tuesday November 04, 2025 @09:58AM (#45811723)
haha that's a great analogy!

How about non-determinism (i.e. hallucinations)? Ask a human ANY question 3 times and they will give you the same answer, every time, unless you prod them or rephrase the question. Sure the answer might be wrong 3 times, but at least you have consistency. Then again, maybe that's a disadvantage for humans!

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Re:The Case That A.I. Is Thinking by adrianmonk on Tuesday November 04, 2025 @07:07PM (#45817420)
Ask an illiterate person the same thing and they will fail badly too. Is it impossible to have intelligence without literacy? (Bonus: if so, how was writing invented?)
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Re:The Case That A.I. Is Thinking by lossyalgo on Wednesday November 05, 2025 @04:59AM (#45821251)
Yes but an illiterate person can be taught to read. Also LLMs generally fail (non-deterministically) at math in general, but humans can also be taught math.
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