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Re:Israel demanded Google and Amazon use secret 'wink' to si... by coldtea on Friday October 31, 2025 @06:38AM (#45770496)
>The investigating authorities aren't being defrauded though; making someone's job harder isn't fraud.

It can very well be, and it's called obstruction of justice.

Though in this case, the real crime is treason. Those companies collaborate with a foreign government against their own.

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Re:Israel demanded Google and Amazon use secret 'wink' to si... by dlubarov on Friday October 31, 2025 @10:48AM (#45772566)
> obstruction of justice

Possibly, depending on intent. But even if so, obstruction of justice is not fraud.

> the real crime is treason

This hypothetical crime (which I'd say is highly unlikely to occur) would definitely not be treason, which has a narrow legal definition. We're not at war with Israel.

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Re:Israel demanded Google and Amazon use secret 'wink' to si... by coldtea on Saturday November 01, 2025 @06:45AM (#45780657)
>Possibly, depending on intent. But even if so, obstruction of justice is not fraud.

Sure, but it's a crime still. Not just something neutral.

>This hypothetical crime (which I'd say is highly unlikely to occur) would definitely not be treason, which has a narrow legal definition. We're not at war with Israel.

No, just on several on behalf of them.

Which one feels should also have been part of this "narrow legal definition".

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