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Re:Turn your 404s into lost children alerts by zmj on Tuesday September 25, 2012 @06:12PM (#4572965)
Please read this: http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=psychology-...

> When people are asked to trade their sacred values for values considered to be secular—what psychologist Philip Tetlock refers to as a “taboo tradeoff”—they exhibit moral outrage, express anger and disgust, become increasingly inflexible in negotiations, and display an insensitivity to a strict cost-benefit analysis of the exchange. What’s more, when people receive monetary offers for relinquishing a sacred value, they display a particularly striking irrationality. Not only are people unwilling to compromise sacred values for money—contrary to classic economic theory’s assumption that financial incentives motivate behavior—but the inclusion of money in an offer produces a backfire effect such that people become even less likely to give up their sacred values compared to when an offer does not include money. People consider trading sacred values for money so morally reprehensible that they recoil at such proposals.

Re:Turn your 404s into lost children alerts by fusiongyro on Tuesday September 25, 2012 @06:49PM (#4573140)
An interesting article about human behavior. How nice. However, I don't see a categorical disproof in there of the idea that saving lives is something worth spending time and money on, so could you take a minute and connect the dots for us plebs? Thanks.
Re:Turn your 404s into lost children alerts by scott_s on Tuesday September 25, 2012 @07:05PM (#4573223)
I assume zmj's point is that we implicitly make this trade-off all the time. For example, cars could be safer, but then they would be more expensive. Anytime we opt for a cheaper car with less safety features, we are making a cost-benefit analysis involving our own lives and the lives of the people who will travel in our car. (Who are probably the most important people to us.) There becomes a point where the actual gains in life-saving potential is negligible, and we don't think it is worth the cost. But we rarely state it that way.
Re:Turn your 404s into lost children alerts by monkeypizza on Tuesday September 25, 2012 @08:28PM (#4573558)
We could easily make cars way, way safer - put a giant, sharp spike sticking out of the center of the steering wheel, pointed at the driver's heart, and forbid seatbelts. Nobody would ever go over 5mph, or put themselves at risk of crashing into anything.
Re:Turn your 404s into lost children alerts by dmansen on Tuesday September 25, 2012 @11:16PM (#4574025)
This is one of the better comments I've seen lately - perfect execution of the "take the parent post's example to an absurd, irrelevant extreme and say Q.E.D."-style comment that seems to be all the rage around here lately. Love it, A+!
Re:Turn your 404s into lost children alerts by jcampbell1 on Tuesday September 25, 2012 @09:00PM (#4573674)
You have completely botched this example. This example is useful to explain why airbags increase collisions. Putting a spear in cars would not make cars safer.
Re:Turn your 404s into lost children alerts by thalecress on Tuesday September 25, 2012 @10:07PM (#4573883)
I don't understand your objection. Do you see a meaningful distinction between "cars are safer" and "cars are driven more safely"?
Re:Turn your 404s into lost children alerts by SatvikBeri on Wednesday September 26, 2012 @09:34AM (#4575483)
There is a major difference. The number of traffic accidents did not change significantly from 1990 to 2009, but the number of deaths from traffic accidents dropped 23%[1]. This is most likely due to cars being built in a way so that their passengers are more likely to survive accidents.

[1]: http://www.census.gov/compendia/statab/2012/tables/12s1103.p...

Re:Turn your 404s into lost children alerts by AngryParsley on Tuesday September 25, 2012 @07:48PM (#4573408)
From http://squid314.livejournal.com/260949.html: Contrary to popular belief, you can put a dollar value on human life. That dollar value is $5.8 million. Denying this leads to terrible consequences. Let me explain.

I'm guessing these 404 pages aren't at all cost-effective. The chances of saving a life are incredibly low, and the cost of implementing and maintaining them is pretty high. Also, there's value lost to users. They'll see a missing child instead of helpful navigation suggestions.

These things sound inconsequential compared to a human life, but they add up extremely quickly. Our minds can't intuitively do the math.

Re:Turn your 404s into lost children alerts by greggman on Wednesday September 26, 2012 @07:27AM (#4575073)
A common example of trying too hard to save lives is the unintended consequences. Example: making airplanes more safe -> flights cost more -> more people opt to drive -> more people are killed in car accidents than saved by safer airplanes

Whether that fits here or not I'm not sure.

Re:Turn your 404s into lost children alerts by darkarmani on Wednesday September 26, 2012 @10:14PM (#4578998)
Why don't we make the speed limit 5 MPH and save a large number of the 45k deaths a year in the US? We could save thousands of lives, but it won't happen.
Re:Turn your 404s into lost children alerts by fusiongyro on Thursday September 27, 2012 @12:22PM (#4581396)
So, in your mind, a nearly zero cost repurposing of the 404 page is equivalent to reducing the speed limit by 75-95%? Not saying it's a good idea to apply this, but the detractors are blowing the cost way out of proportion.