Re:Officials scrub data showing US citizens swept up in immi...
by Terr_ on Wednesday October 22, 2025 @06:56PM
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We must (socially) assume all arrests are US citizens by default, and it is up to the Florida/federal government to assert otherwise on an individual basis.
Re:Officials scrub data showing US citizens swept up in immi...
by Terr_ on Wednesday October 22, 2025 @09:34PM
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I feel it goes a bit beyond that, because at this point it's also the presumption that those governments are operating recklessly and with knowing dishonestly.
Re:Officials scrub data showing US citizens swept up in immi...
by flowerthoughts on Thursday October 23, 2025 @01:04AM
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You could argue that presuming you're an alien implies that rights given by law don't necessarily apply to you. It's far worse than being presumed guilty.
Re:Officials scrub data showing US citizens swept up in immi...
by heavyset_go on Wednesday October 22, 2025 @07:18PM
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This is why due process is so important, and why it's terrifying that it's being hand-waved away.
If you had a problem with Bush & Obama suspending habeas corpus, this should be setting off alarm bells for you if, for whatever reason, recent events haven't.
Re:Officials scrub data showing US citizens swept up in immi...
by bryanlarsen on Wednesday October 22, 2025 @11:01PM
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That's not true, there was massive coverage of that sort of thing during the Obama administration. There's a reason DACA was a major portion of Obama's efforts.
Re:Officials scrub data showing US citizens swept up in immi...
by bryanlarsen on Thursday October 23, 2025 @08:40AM
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"equally" is highly suspect. Just like most presidents on both the R & D sides, Obama made a bunch of mistakes and was no saint. Trump cannot be considered normal or lumped together with "most presidents".
If you had a problem with Bush & Obama suspending habeas corpus, this should be setting off alarm bells for you if, for whatever reason, recent events haven't.
If a person faults Trump equally with Obama, I believe they are acting logically.
If the person considers Obama a saint and Trump a demon, then I have to wonder why.