Fallout from the AWS outage: Smart mattresses go rogue

Re:Fallout from the AWS outage: Smart mattresses go rogue by drnick1 on Tuesday October 21, 2025 @02:26PM (#45659612)

And this is why all of my "smart" home devices are managed through Home Assistant without Internet access. I simply won't buy a device that can't be used that way. I shouldn't have to create an "account" or provide a name and email address to use a device that I physically own. A good way to start is to look for Zigbee devices; the protocol is local only by design and the Zigbee coordinator/router can be a simple USB dongle connected to an ordinary PC.

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Re:Fallout from the AWS outage: Smart mattresses go rogue by para_parolu on Tuesday October 21, 2025 @04:16PM (#45661110)

Any suggestions for robot vacuum?

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Re:Fallout from the AWS outage: Smart mattresses go rogue by xyx0826 on Tuesday October 21, 2025 @05:12PM (#45661781)

Valetudo. I haven’t had personal experience using it (due to an unsupported model of NAND memory chip), but I’ve heard good words: https://valetudo.cloud/

That said, I did some research last year before buying my first robot vacuum. I wasn’t able to find a project - Valetudo included - that would support the bigger, fancier robots made by Roborock etc. If you’re looking to decloud a recent model, I don’t have a good answer.

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Re:Fallout from the AWS outage: Smart mattresses go rogue by Shopper0552 on Tuesday October 21, 2025 @10:17PM (#45664213)

I've got Valetudo running on a Dreame LS40. If anyone has any questions, feel free to ask me.

It's been installed for a few months now, and I bought it specifically to install Valetudo on it.

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Re:Fallout from the AWS outage: Smart mattresses go rogue by PeterStuer on Wednesday October 22, 2025 @04:13AM (#45666172)

Honestly, the dumber the better. The old 0 smarts Vileda VR102 still outperforms most of the expensive sensor laden connected units I've encoutered. Sadly no longer available (except online at 4x their original cost).

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Re:Fallout from the AWS outage: Smart mattresses go rogue by torginus on Thursday October 23, 2025 @05:45PM (#45687647)

I have a Xiaomi one, and that also connects to the cloud if you wanna use the smartphone app, but you can just not connect it to the internet, set it down, push the button and it does its thing

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Re:Fallout from the AWS outage: Smart mattresses go rogue by magic_hamster on Wednesday October 22, 2025 @02:16AM (#45665447)

Sadly the vast majority of consumers are not going to care, or worse, they could think that the local option is inferior. Most people don't run their own automation. A lot of people don't even set up their own WiFi. Mainstream products, as expected, aim for the least amount of required knowledge.

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Re:Fallout from the AWS outage: Smart mattresses go rogue by torginus on Wednesday October 22, 2025 @07:53PM (#45676631)

Not true, you underestimate the power of hone improvement obessesed tinkering dads

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Re:Fallout from the AWS outage: Smart mattresses go rogue by hnburnsy on Wednesday October 22, 2025 @11:35AM (#45670716)

EightSleep is even better, you have to create two accounts if you have a partner

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Re:Fallout from the AWS outage: Smart mattresses go rogue by torginus on Wednesday October 22, 2025 @07:53PM (#45676624)

So much this, considering the wave of shitty cloud subscription based smart home products (half of which have already been bricked by their backing companies going out of business), Home Assistant sounds like something that's too good to be true.

It also demonstrates to a wide, non-technical audience that home networking, and eschewing cloud services is not difficult at all. I have strong hopes for a local-first future.

In fact, I hope, considering how much the EU has been pushing digital sovereignity, I'd love if they introduced some legislation that mandated that any product that could be concievably made to work without a cloud, should be forced to do so.

Half of the home automation crap they are selling phones home to some central server (Tuya I'm looking at you mainly), and there are lot of products like my AC which also only work with a cloud integration which I'm not super comfortable with.

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