Re:The IDEs we had 30 years ago ... and we lost
by igouy on Monday October 20, 2025 @07:53PM
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Is a modern phone a general purpose computer?
What kind-of UI does a modern phone present?
Re:The IDEs we had 30 years ago ... and we lost
by eikenberry on Wednesday October 22, 2025 @06:41PM
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A modern phone is not a general purpose computer. They are proprietary, locked down devices. Appliances.
Re:The IDEs we had 30 years ago ... and we lost
by igouy on Thursday October 23, 2025 @06:41PM
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"The PinePhone is a smartphone that empowers users with control over the device. It is capable of running mainline Linux, features hardware privacy switches, and is designed for open-source enthusiasts."
Perhaps I simply failed to see your definition of "a general purpose computer".
Please say what rules must be passed to meet your definition.
Re:The IDEs we had 30 years ago ... and we lost
by int_19h on Tuesday October 21, 2025 @06:41PM
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CLI is also specific to apps in practice, and I don't see any obvious difference between scripted CLI and scripted (with the likes of Active Scripting or AppleScript, or for that matter Tcl etc) GUI apps.
Re:The IDEs we had 30 years ago ... and we lost
by eikenberry on Wednesday October 22, 2025 @06:39PM
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The difference is that you don't use Active Scripting, AppleScript, TCL, etc. as your primary UI.
The shell is a script-able UI.
The main point is that for a general purpose computer the UI needs to integrate programming. Programming is how you use a computer. The shell (text) is currently the primary UI that inherently allows programming.