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Re:Alibaba Cloud claims to reduce Nvidia GPU use by 82% by adventured on Monday October 20, 2025 @02:06PM (#45647098)
The inclusion of China in the WTO is what changed everything.

The elites thought they'd set up shop in a new, gigantic consumer market and reap the rewards. So they got Clinton to spend his last days in office lobbying very aggressively for China's inclusion into the WTO.

China had different plans. Keeping the plunderers out (this time) was one of the smartest moves any nation has made in recorded history. Then the same elites slowly pivoted against China, post realizing they wouldn't be allowed to own China. If we can own you, you're our friend; if we can't own you, you're our enemy. And this is quite obviously not a defense of China's human rights record or anything else, that's not the point. China only mattered (in the enemy sense) when the elites realized they were going to be locked on the outside of the rise.

Re:Alibaba Cloud claims to reduce Nvidia GPU use by 82% by marcosdumay on Monday October 20, 2025 @07:39PM (#45650782)
> The elites thought they'd set up shop in a new, gigantic consumer market and reap the rewards.

So... Seems that's exactly what they are getting.

Re:Alibaba Cloud claims to reduce Nvidia GPU use by 82% by fspeech on Monday October 20, 2025 @11:14PM (#45652062)
They didn't keep the foreign corporations out. Having them as on-shore competitors is what keeps their own companies from merely seeking rents. Foreign companies also didn't bring their best products in the beginning out of the fear of getting copied, but that strategy is not sustainable over time as Chinese companies get better at making things.