Oh, I certainly don‘t want to debate that, just to know what is meant with "horror stories" here.

pedophiles like PREpubescents. Not 16 year olds. Different terminology & psychology.

Ginsberg was a member of the North American Man/BOY Love Association.

Why are you defending this man? What if we said he sexually exploited teenagers when he was in his 50's -- is that better?

i’m not! you are immediately accusing people of supporting child abuse based on literally nothing.

I am not debating what counts as child sexual abuse with you. I also doubt this is a hill you want to die on.

who said i’m debating anything? there are actual terms for these things you know.

Just stop before you say something you regret having on the internet forever.