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Re:TurboTax’s 20-year fight to stop Americans from filing ta... by rsynnott on Thursday October 16, 2025 @07:53AM (#45604264)
Most countries use some sort of PAYE system, so the average person will need to do little or nothing on tax.
Re:TurboTax’s 20-year fight to stop Americans from filing ta... by johnnienaked on Thursday October 16, 2025 @07:55AM (#45604272)
Every country I've ever lived in you had to prep and submit your own taxes. Never heard of that system.
Re:TurboTax’s 20-year fight to stop Americans from filing ta... by zinekeller on Thursday October 16, 2025 @08:07AM (#45604341)
If you happen to be an entrepreneur, a foreigner (relative to the country of work), or an American citizen (despite holding the citizenship you're on, thanks FATCA!), then, yeah, I can see why you have never encountered the simpler arrangements.

If you're an ordinary citizen of most countries and work under a company, the company is obliged to track it for you. What you get is a very simplified form asking if you have more income sources than from your work, and the local tax system means that most of them legally do not have any (for example, banks collect the taxes for the interest you have received, not the arcane American system where you're the one responsible for that).

Re:TurboTax’s 20-year fight to stop Americans from filing ta... by rsynnott on Thursday October 16, 2025 @08:26AM (#45604500)
> a foreigner (relative to the country of work)

In a PAYE system, merely being a foreigner isn't _usually_ an issue, provided that you're domiciled and don't have foreign income. The exception, as you mention, would be a US citizen; the US's approach to foreign income of its citizens is sufficiently weird that they'll generally have annoying tax situations.

> What you get is a very simplified form asking if you have more income sources than from your work, and the local tax system means that most of them legally do not have any

If even that. In Ireland, and I believe the UK, you only have to fill out that form if you actually _do_ have non-employment income which is not deducted at source. Most peoples' only interaction with Irish Revenue would be to claim tax credits on rent/mortgage/medical expenditure/whatever.

Re:TurboTax’s 20-year fight to stop Americans from filing ta... by johnnienaked on Thursday October 16, 2025 @04:50PM (#45610513)
>If you're an ordinary citizen of most countries and work under a company, the company is obliged to track it for you.

So a W-2?

>for example, banks collect the taxes for the interest you have received, not the arcane American system where you're the one responsible for that).

So a 1099?

I gotta be honest it sounds like you don't really understand the American tax system very well.

Re:TurboTax’s 20-year fight to stop Americans from filing ta... by avalys on Thursday October 16, 2025 @08:44AM (#45604663)
Yes, and this includes the US!

When people say they are “paying their taxes”, really what they’re doing is checking whether the automatic tax deduction out of each paycheck was properly calculated over the whole year, and whether any special circumstances make them eligible for a refund (or whether they’ve had other income they need to pay tax on).