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Re:Britain has wasted £1,112,293,718 switching off wind turb... by bee_rider on Wednesday October 15, 2025 @10:00AM (#45592719)
It is nice that is keeps renewables extra profitable, but if they could price down a bit they could just run fossil fuels out of the market entirely… so, it doesn’t seem like a great favor to them.

OTOH treating all units of energy “fairly” ignores the added value of dispatchable generation, so it doesn’t really seem fair at all.

On the gripping hand, if pricing was set by the market, customers could be incentivized to help fix the intermittence problem by making their loads dispatchable, which seems like it would be an all-around win…

Re:Britain has wasted £1,112,293,718 switching off wind turb... by StopDisinfo910 on Wednesday October 15, 2025 @10:10AM (#45592861)
> if they could price down a bit they could just run fossil fuels out of the market entirely

What do you propose we do when the intermittent sources don’t provide enough energy and all the other power sources have gone bankrupt?

Re:Britain has wasted £1,112,293,718 switching off wind turb... by bee_rider on Wednesday October 15, 2025 @10:16AM (#45592938)
I feel like I discussed that in the second half of my post, so I’m not sure how to respond to this question.
Re:Britain has wasted £1,112,293,718 switching off wind turb... by samrus on Wednesday October 15, 2025 @11:14AM (#45593866)
How would users make their demands dispatchable? The demand is the demand. The supply has to match
Re:Britain has wasted £1,112,293,718 switching off wind turb... by bee_rider on Wednesday October 15, 2025 @12:41PM (#45595183)
It depends on the specific load, dishwashers can be configured to run when the price drops a bit, heating can be configured to allow your house to get a little colder, and if the market provides enough incentive, adding insulation will become economical.

I mean it is a big pile of interests that needs to be optimized. One option is to expose it to the market and let the supply and demand optimization process have a go at it.