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Re:Software update bricks some Jeep 4xe hybrids over the wee... by WalterBright on Tuesday October 14, 2025 @03:30AM (#45577195)
Please refer to my earlier comment that there is zero chance of making bug-free software.
Re:Software update bricks some Jeep 4xe hybrids over the wee... by throwway120385 on Tuesday October 14, 2025 @10:39AM (#45580635)
Counterpoint: You can get close enough that you can run a probe in space for 60 years.
Re:Software update bricks some Jeep 4xe hybrids over the wee... by jacquesm on Tuesday October 14, 2025 @11:42AM (#45581386)
True, but: different budget per unit of code produced.
Re:Software update bricks some Jeep 4xe hybrids over the wee... by seanhunter on Tuesday October 14, 2025 @02:30PM (#45583236)
Hence the famous joke at NASA that you get to launch the rocket when the documentation if piled up would be taller than the rocket itself.

...all of which is just an excuse to show this great picture of Margaret Hamilton [1] lead developer on the Apollo guidance system standing next to (and slightly shorter than) the printouts of the source code https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Margaret_Hamilton_-_resto...

[1] Who was admittedly quite short apparently

Re:Software update bricks some Jeep 4xe hybrids over the wee... by jacquesm on Wednesday October 15, 2025 @09:12AM (#45591934)
That's a fantastic picture.

I've worked on some interesting software with lives on the line as well and the amount of test code absolutely dwarfed the functional part. I wonder whether at the time of the effort you linked that was already common practice and if it was what the fraction of that code was tests.

Assuming she's 1.65 meters tall and 66 lines per page (quite common back then), at 0.2 mm thickness per page that's 8K pages times 66 lines / page is ~550K lines. Pretty impressive!

Re:Software update bricks some Jeep 4xe hybrids over the wee... by WalterBright on Tuesday October 14, 2025 @03:05PM (#45583558)
Some probes have had major failures that JPL was able to work around with a software update.