The metrics are there and they were driven by them; they just didn’t want to share what those metrics were because they wouldn’t be received well.

“Our primary investors are also leveraged heavily in the commercial real estate market and they’re losing their shirts and we need their money, so…”

Yeah, it is just very humorous such that normally, all of us in the room are used to a specific kind of presentation, where they show metrics and why that's a good thing because all decisions MUST to be data-driven. In this particular case, it definitely "boosted productivity and was helpful" no Q&A, no data, meeting was over.

And then we didn't have enough desks, outlets, and internet was slow. Lmao.