Re:Ryanair flight landed at Manchester airport with six minu...
by jacquesm on Friday October 10, 2025 @12:41PM
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This is exactly how it is in this case. Any consumption of the fuel reserve would result in an investigation, this is a very extreme case and it may even result in a change in the rules depending on the root cause.
Re:Ryanair flight landed at Manchester airport with six minu...
by tonyhart7 on Friday October 10, 2025 @04:31PM
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Yeah idk people debating about this, if this justifiable then its all gucci and world can learn from such experience
Re:Ryanair flight landed at Manchester airport with six minu...
by appreciatorBus on Friday October 10, 2025 @02:32PM
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Yes, exactly. The day it's normal to eat into the allowance is the day we start seeing planes falling out of sky for lack of fuel again. The only way to prevent that is to treat 30 min of fuel as seriously as you would 0 minutes.
Re:Ryanair flight landed at Manchester airport with six minu...
by abtinf on Friday October 10, 2025 @02:32PM
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This is really helpful and I think I understand now.
The approach is basically “accounting for everything that might go wrong to the best of our experience, including problems arising from the complex interactions between the airplane and supporting ground systems and processes, this is how much fuel you need in the worst case scenario. And now lets add more to give us a cushion, and we will treat consumption of this last reserve as tantamount to a crash.”
Re:Ryanair flight landed at Manchester airport with six minu...
by adastra22 on Friday October 10, 2025 @02:42PM
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Precisely.
Re:Ryanair flight landed at Manchester airport with six minu...
by lo0dot0 on Saturday October 11, 2025 @08:00AM
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Yes. Similarly, safety needs to be there even after the aging of materials over product lifetime. So basically when aging is the only variable to be considered end of life date is the worst case scenario.
If you ever cut into your safety allowance, you've already fucked up. Your expected design criteria should account for all use cases, nominal or worst-case. The safety factor is there for safety, it is never intended to be used.