Re:PSA: Always use a separate domain for user content
by ericselin on Friday October 10, 2025 @09:45AM
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This is of course true! It just takes an incident like this to get ones head out of ones ass and actually do it. :)
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Re:PSA: Always use a separate domain for user content
by kbolino on Friday October 10, 2025 @10:17AM
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The good news is, once known, a lesson like this is hard to forget.
The PSL is one of those load-bearing pieces of web infrastructure that is esoteric and thanklessly maintained. Maybe there ought to be a better way, both in the sense of a direct alternative (like DNS), and in the sense of a better security model.
Re:PSA: Always use a separate domain for user content
by chrismorgan on Friday October 10, 2025 @12:09PM
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There’s some value in the public suffix list being shared, with mild sanity checking before accepting entries: it maintains a distinction between site (which includes all subdomains) and origin (which doesn’t). Safe Browsing wants to block sites, but if you can designate your domain a public suffix without oversight, you can bypass that so that it will only manage to block your subdomains individually (until they adjust their heuristics to something much more complicated and less reliable than what we have now).
Re:PSA: Always use a separate domain for user content
by hiatus on Friday October 10, 2025 @10:15AM
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One can only imagine the other beginner mistakes made by this operator.
Re:PSA: Always use a separate domain for user content
by kbolino on Friday October 10, 2025 @10:19AM
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Well, you're responding to him, so questions or suggestions are probably better than speculation.
My comment about vitriol was more directed at the HN commenters than Eric himself. Really, I think a discussion about web infrastructure is more interesting than a hatefest on Google. Thankfully, the balance seems to have shifted since I posted my top-level comment.
Re:PSA: Always use a separate domain for user content
by hiatus on Friday October 10, 2025 @10:29AM
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> Well, you're responding to him, so questions or suggestions are probably better than speculation.
I suspect the author is unaware of their other blindspots. It's not 2001 anymore. Holding yourself out as a hosting provider comes with some baseline expectations.
Re:PSA: Always use a separate domain for user content
by lcnPylGDnU4H9OF on Friday October 10, 2025 @11:56AM
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> baseline expectations
Do you have more details? That sounds interesting.
Re:PSA: Always use a separate domain for user content
by shadowgovt on Friday October 10, 2025 @10:16AM
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Everyone learns somehow.
Re:PSA: Always use a separate domain for user content
by neon_erosion on Friday October 10, 2025 @05:00PM
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This is the kind of thing that customers rely on you to do _before_ it causes an incident.
Re:PSA: Always use a separate domain for user content
by ericselin on Friday October 10, 2025 @06:27PM
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The thing is, for users, having a separate domain wouldn't have made any difference without the PSL. And you cannot get on there before you're big enough - which I'd say is roughly at the same time as you start grabbing the attention of scammers.