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Re:ICE bought vehicles equipped with fake cell towers to spy... by coredog64 on Tuesday October 07, 2025 @04:27PM (#45508395)
Out of curiosity, what makes "arresting citizens" illegal?

If I'm in a crowd in the presence of a number of other law breakers, why would I think that I couldn't ever be temporarily detained? I mean, yes, it shouldn't be indefinite and there shouldn't be a high bar to clear to prove actual innocence, but we have process for this. I can be arrested without much provocation at all. I then have to be charged, I have the opportunity to enter a plea, get bail, and then I get a trial. All of that can (and does) happen to people who are legitimately innocent.

Re:ICE bought vehicles equipped with fake cell towers to spy... by dragonwriter on Tuesday October 07, 2025 @06:11PM (#45509565)
> Out of curiosity, what makes "arresting citizens" illegal?

Without probable cause? The Fourth Amendment.

> shouldn't be a high bar to clear to prove actual innocence

I see that you are comfortable with a presumption of guilt so long as the burden of proof of actual innocence isn’t too rigorous, but that’s exactly backwards.

Re:ICE bought vehicles equipped with fake cell towers to spy... by softwaredoug on Tuesday October 07, 2025 @04:33PM (#45508464)
I should have said "without cause" (now edited). Brown folks are detained randomly because they don't have their papers on them and "look Mexican".
Re:ICE bought vehicles equipped with fake cell towers to spy... by hitarpetar on Tuesday October 07, 2025 @06:05PM (#45509507)
due process