Re:Americans increasingly see legal sports betting as a bad ...
by polio on Sunday October 05, 2025 @11:06AM
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In sports betting contexts, you're often just betting against other players, I believe. If they're anything like prediction markets, the exchange isn't going to care how successful you are, as long as you're betting.
Re:Americans increasingly see legal sports betting as a bad ...
by estearum on Sunday October 05, 2025 @11:27AM
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They're not like prediction markets. They do exactly what GP says they do: if you win, you effectively get banned (max bet sizes shrunk toward $0). If you suck, they do the reverse and expand your max bet sizes and offer you loans.
These things are so unfathomably antisocial that I earnestly believe every single politician who advances them should be (journalistically) investigated as extensively as is legally possible.
Re:Americans increasingly see legal sports betting as a bad ...
by at-w on Sunday October 05, 2025 @07:42PM
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There are lots of places where you can bet against other players now. The older betting markets like Betfair are no longer available in the US, but Kalshi, Polymarket, and others now offer the same kind of two-sided marketplace in the US.
Re:Americans increasingly see legal sports betting as a bad ...
by IncreasePosts on Sunday October 05, 2025 @11:52AM
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There is parimutuel betting, but the payouts change based on the final pool size
Re:Americans increasingly see legal sports betting as a bad ...
by rurp on Sunday October 05, 2025 @01:21PM
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Not only do winning players get quickly banned like sibling said, the house take on the major platforms is vastly higher than with traditional sports betting.
Re:Americans increasingly see legal sports betting as a bad ...
by at-w on Sunday October 05, 2025 @07:52PM
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>the house take on the major platforms is vastly higher than with traditional sports betting
What kind of markets is this referring to?
Polymarket still charges 0 fees. While Kalshi's fees+spread can approach or even exceed traditional sportsbooks on some markets, neither of them have any interest in banning winning players, as they don't take a side on any bet and directly benefit from more betting activity. Kalshi also pays interest on bets, which can add up on longer term positions.
Betfair has operated with a similar model for decades in the UK and elsewhere.
the core issue is that such possibility does not exist. if you are successful gambler to the point where you are on the path to riches you will be banned from all platforms faster than Jets are mathematically eliminated from the playoffs